DEJA VU? Remember the Last Three for One Deal????????????? In regards to the potential Rockets trade for Tracy McGrady, I am feeling a little bit of deja vu when I think about the trio of players that the Magic are requesting. Francis, Mobley and Cato for McGrady??? Remember the Eddie Griffin trade that ended up with the Rockets getting a pistol packing crackhead/psychopath and the Nets getting a future All-star and a serviceable bigman. McGrady is a talented player, but do you trade a whole starting team almost for one player that is not SHAQ(in his youth)? The Rockets would be an injury away from becoming Orlando of the South. A knee injury to Yao Ming or McGrady who already has severe back problems(missed a ton of games last season with back trouble) eventually getting worse would put the Rockets back in the lottery for years to come. I am not ready to take that risk and give up on this team so quickly. Just look at Detroit and what they were able to accomplish with good solid players at each position instead of one ball-hogging Superstar of which the Lakers had two. And with their two Super-stars got the snot kicked out of them in the Finals!!!!!
I know that but to take some of the throw in scrubbs off that pitiful Orlando team with be the same as getting nothing in a 3 for 1 deal. Now you are just talking semantics!!!!!!!
One thing I learned from this thread!!!!!!! is that using lots of punctuation marks helps emphasize your point!!!!!! Did anybody else know that?????????
This is getting ridiculous ... comparing TMac to Griffin? How could some of the Rox fans get so low? TMac is one of the top ten player in the world if he ic not top 5. Griffin was just a no name college dude when that trade went down. TMac has been NBA's top 3 scoreer for the past few seasons and the leader this last season. Griffin had not scored a single point when the trade went down. Please stop this kind of stupid analogy. It makes other Rox fans be ashamed.
Yea, T-Mac this and T-Mac that!!!! Wow, did'nt he lead his team to a great record last season and to a nice run in the playoffs did'nt he? A top 5 player????? I doubt it greatly!!! A top five scorer, definitely! He does not play a lick of defense and is a ball hog second to none, this side of KOBE!!!! If he was all that, Orlando would not have sucked as bad as they did last season. Trading for him and giving up Francis, Mobley and Cato would put the Rockets back in the lottery if he of Yao miss any major time due to injury!!!!
its funny when people call him a boll hog when he had 5.5assists per game as a SG. WHile francis had had 6 assists.
No one could help last season's Orlando. They simply just suck, and T-Mac is only human after all. Yes. Don't put T-Mac and Griffin in the same sentence.
i dont think we will do it if it means trading cat. steve and cato = the salaries of tmac and howard. we add future picks, and maybe jj and the TE for some scrubs.
The Barkley trade comes to mind with us giving up our future PG & PF/SF ...the griffin trade is just too different to compare.
The real ridiculous part of this is that trading Francis, Cato and Mobley for McGrady does not work with out throwing an addtional player or players in the deal! That being the case, we are NOT trading three players for one.
Barkley was an over-the-hill superstar. McGrady is a superstar in his prime. And it's not 3 for 1 for McGrady. It'll probably 3 for 2 or 3 for 3 or 2 for 2.
You guys keep talking about player additions to the 3 for 1 trade scenario. The point is, Orlando does not have any players on that team with McGrady. They only have has beens(Howard & Hill) and scrubbs(Tyrone Lue & Drew Gooden)!!! Most of which would have trouble making the opening roster for the L.A. Clippers!!!! The point that I am trying to make is not that Eddie Griffin is the same type of player as T-Mac, but that giving up two of your three best players and a solid post player in Cato, is too much for T-Mac alone. I actually think if Francis or Mobley got to shoot as much as T-Mac as they did before Yao, they would average 50 points between the two!!!!!
First of all... If Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong were on our team right now they wouldn't be contributing. Collins is barely better than Collier, and Armstrong is a shooter who can't get playing time on one of the league's worst shooting teams. The RJ/EGriff trade was effectively a 1-1 swap. So it's not a good analogy. They didn't average 50 points between them before Yao, back before the zone when they effectively were allowed to do anything they want. What makes you think they would now? Simply put, with his ability to score off the ball Tracy could put up big numbers with Yao as the first option. And if you think Juwan Howard wouldn't be an upgrade over Cato at the 4, you're crazy.
A superstar nonetheless. We basically sacrificed our depth by giving up several good players who are relatively young and approaching their primes for one great one. Sounds very similar to me.
I'm missing the similarity here. Barkley was over 30 and we traded younger players for him. The end result was a talented, but aging team. McGrady is both the best player in this proposed trade and he's the youngest player involved. Huge difference between trading for an aging star and a 25 year old star. We end up with two potential Franchise players, both of which are only 25 years old.
hey that trade would have paid BIG dividends if malone didn't hug barkley and let stockton fire that 3.
