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Davis Mills - From not to hot

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Sep 19, 2021.

  1. Verbal Christ

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    I see a more athletic Matt Schaub. Sketchy on the deep balls, but money in the intermediate game. If Mills can work in his wheels in a timely manner ala a Mahomes or Rodgers then his game would open up. He's earned another year to prove the doubters wrong. It will be a tough decision next year if Mills doesnt take the next step and you have a high draft pick looking at bonafide blue chippers at the position in 2023.
     
  2. RunninRaven

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    Watching these highlights, I'm struck by how often he throws the ball without setting his feet. And he seems to do it relatively well. It's unusual for a guy to have any kind of accuracy when throwing off the back foot or in mid-stride. But he seems pretty comfortable doing it. I remember watching Mahomes do that a ton when he first came into the league. It typically seemed to work out for him but I kept thinking it would catch up with him eventually, but he is just really good at it. Hopefully Mills continues to be so as well.
     
  3. cmoak1982

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    This is what I’ve noticed as well. His arm talent is legit. His feet are legit.
    Would like to see him tighten it up a bit, that’s where his potential is.
     
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    At a minimum you have to let him go into next year as the QB and give him some more o line, and a quality running back. If he doesn't make the grade we will be rewarded with another high first round pick. Coupled with the picks from the Watson trade and loads of free agent money. We are NOT going to win the super bowl next year anyway. Let it ride he is house money. Surround him with talent at positions of need and don't waste picks reaching for the QB lack of class this year. Brady would not have gotten us to the playoffs this year.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I firmly believe that Mills should be our day 1 starting QB and the job is his until he proves otherwise, but I also believe it's entirely plausible that he faceplants next year and we never hear from him again. Given that, it would be smart to take a QB to 1) insure against injury 2) insure against failure and 3) keep healthy competition going. Everyone around here is acting like this is a huge investment or heresy, but it's really not. The best run franchises do this and its easy to claw back value on an underutilized QB prospect.

    Like I said, you either believe he's the guy or he isn't. You saying "he deserves a chance to show he is the man" signals you don't believe he's the guy. If so, why would you not be drafting QBs until you have answered that question in your mind? The last 20 years are littered with case studies of teams who draft a QB, stop investing in the position, everything goes to hell, and then 2-3 years later they're back at square one again. That's a guaranteed way to maximize the amount of time on the rebuild treadmill.
     
  6. tmacfor35

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    I think Mills at minimum can be that guy next year and at best your guy. There’s no QB’s in this draft that I feel have a for sure better future than Mills. That’s the point I’m making. If Mills falls flat, then we take a Qb and move on. Use the draft capital you will get from being bad, trading Watson, and trading Tunsil this year towards improving the whole team. We saw Mills with a good run game once this year. I want to see that all the time.
     
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  7. DonnyMost

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    er whut?

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    This is where you lose me. Nobody thought Mills was worth much, either. None of us are draft experts. I approach each draft assuming I don't know **** about ****, because I don't. Other than the once-every-20-years generational thoroughbred QB, trying to time the market is mostly a fools game.

    You move on, but you also put yourself another year behind in the rebuild. If you take a QB this year and Mills flames out, you can either A) start the new guy immediately and get a sneak peek at what you have or B) at least have a more prepared QB ready to go next year instead of just throwing another greenhorn to the wolves.

    To me I don't know how anyone can be ready to give Mills the wheel no-questions-asked. He acquitted himself nicely this year and I'm excited to see what comes, but I'm not so foolhardy as to think the actuarial tables aren't very much against our search being over with Mills.
     
  8. HeyBudLetsParty

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    Was thinking Schaub earlier but I’ll give his zip more credit than that. Andre would routinely take the top of the defense and have to slow down to catch the pass, I think Mills does a better job of leading the receiver while not having elite zip.
     
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    Should have been allowed to play uptempo much sooner
     
  11. cmoak1982

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    His arm is more Burrow/Brady. Strong but not elite. Can fire it in when needed but doesn’t need the fast ball all the time.
     
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    Yup…as trader_jorge mentioned earlier he throws with touch, anticipation and accuracy. 3 things more important than pure arm strength.
     
  13. cmoak1982

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    Right, you add those with well above average strength and you got something
     
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    Have you not watched the 49ers game on that beautiful deep throw to Cooks that got called back on a Brown holding call? Deep accuracy isn't an issue. Mills has a much better arm than Schaub ever had and much more accurate than Schaub on deep throws too.
     
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    Apparently has the best passer rating in the league on deep balls
     
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    To be honest: he also threw up at least a half-dozen balls that should have been picked off but turned into catches or inc.
     
  17. cmoak1982

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    Maybe a couple, he also put some where only the receiver could catch the ball.
    Hell, Watson did that all the time with Hopkins
     
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  18. Buck Turgidson

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    No, it was way more, don't deny it.

    Mills threw some straight up WTF passes that worked out as incompletions and not INTs.
     
  19. cmoak1982

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    What plays in particular? Since there are so many

    If a ball is placed where only the receiver can catch it that’s a good ball.
     
  20. raining threes

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    This all comes down to if you think there's a franchise QB in this draft. Do you think there's one? I dont. So you're wasting a draft pick.
     

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