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Eddie Robinson on the Rockets would be Devestating

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tranmerica34, Jul 6, 2001.

  1. Tranmerica34

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    E-Rob on the Rockets? My friends, this would make the Rockets a devestating team. He runs the break better than ANYONE at the 3 position and that includes Vince. He's 6'9", has 3 point range, a sweet stroke, I don't have to tell you how he attacks the rim AND he can guard Kobe.

    Imagine a starting lineup of:

    Stevee Franchise
    Cat Mobley
    Eddie Robinson
    E Griffin
    Hakeem

    Would there be a quicker AND faster starting 5 in the NBA (Hakeem included)?!?!?!

    The Rockets destroyed the East last year because of speed and quickness (I wonder if that's why Larry Brown drafted Speedy Claxton to team up with the Answer?). They beat the upper echelon teams in the west with speed and quickness.

    They're not going to outmuscle Shaq, but collectively they could get to more rebounds and loose balls with aggregate speed and quickness.

    Webber's not gonna happen. Give me Eddie Robinson and maybe Marc Jackson and you have a great nucleus that could grow together, while creating one heckuva fast break in Houston.

    - Tranmerica

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  2. RunninRaven

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    I would be surprised if the Rockets tried to start EGriff at the 4 this season. I think he will grow into it eventually, and be a good 4 for a team (hopefully us), but next season is pushing it.

    Also, what makes you think he has 3-point range? According to his stats on ESPN, dude has attempted all of eight 3-point attempts for his whole career--two of which he made.

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  3. mfgarza

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    at this point,Griffith is too skinny and weak to guard the Malones,Duncans,Wallaces of the league. Maybe one day, he can bulk up a bit to battle with the more stronger pfs fo the league. I heard that he only benches 185. I know it's not indicative of his basketball skills but of his upper body strength.

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  4. Tranmerica34

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    True, True, he hasn't shot that many threes, however he does have a perimeter game and the 3 is something he could develop, especially in the Rockets isolation offense.

    Your point about Griffin starting at the 3 and working his way to the 4 is also valid, but the point is, he will end up at 4 at some point. I'd hate to have Mo Taylor playing the 4 and being our only interior rebounder, shot blocking option. The guy is SOFT. On a team that had no rebounders and your PG leading you in boards, he could only muster 5 boards? Are you kidding me? The Rocks grand plan is to move Eddie to the 4 at some point. I would even say that Eddie at the 4 right now is more his natural position as he's a shot blocker and does his work inside better than he could guard quick 3s on the perimeter.

    Also, the Rockets have roughly $11M to spend. Other than Webber, who else could they sign other than their own free agents?

    Am I really off, or would Franchise, Cat, Eddie and Eddie be one of the fastest breaks if not THE fastest in the league?

    They would be in the top 4 in terms of speed, quickness and athleticism at all the skill positions (1,2,3) with Eddie Robinson. They'd also be one of the most versatile (Stevee and Cat are interchangible at the guard spots and Eddie can play 2 as well as 3 and can even slip over to 4 with a super quick lineup).

    Also, you'd have a perimeter defender and someone who could attack the rim at the 3 spot. When's the last time Houston had someone who could effectively defend the perimeter, attack the hoop, run the break viciously and make the open jump shot? Buck Johnson? NO, I don't think so. I am so sick of the athletic, no job shot havin' 3s in the league eating our lunch on a nightly basis. I'd also like to see a 3 man break where our 3 can FINISH (shandon, i love ya, but you don't play above the rim).

    If Eddie Robinson is a Rocket, name a quicker trio in the NBA today? Milwakee comes to mind as a possibility, but no chance.

    If i couldn't have Webber- My reasonable wish list:

    Sign Eddie Robinson
    Sign Marc Jackson
    Re-Sign Bullard, Moochie, Langhi, Hakeem
    Let Mo Taylor walk
    Let Shandon Anderson walk
    Sign Gary Trent for the veteran's exception

    That's a solid nucleus to build upon.

    Would love to hear any other reasonable options that are better.

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    Yeah that's a great idea, sign Eddie Robinson AND resign Langhi and AirBull. Man then we could run out an entire team of SF. Robinson, Bullard, Walt, Griffin, T-Mo, and Langhi, let's do it right now, just so we can have the fastest fast break in the league!!! I'm not opposed to signing E-Robb, but if we do, Bull and Walt have got to go.




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    I find this very hard to believe. I'm not very strong and I'm only 145 pounds and I can bench that much. He has to be able to do more than that.

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    As someone else mentioned back when this was first brought up, a player with a 7'4" wingspan (or whatever it was that EGriff has, somewhere close to that), has a much more difficult time bench pressing a lot of weight than someone who is shorter, with shorter arms. It does seem weak, and Griffin would have to get stronger in order to play PF, but I don't think his inability to bench press 185 more than twice is really that indicative of his ability to bang down low with the big boys.

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  8. Abraham

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    In a different thread, someone mentioned that inaccurate rumors were being spread about players (I think it was Haywood in that case) only being able to bench 185 lbs. Appearantly these rumors came from an endurance test in which players were evaluated on how many times they could bench 185.

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    I think the Rox are just going to look for big men now. I believe they think that they have enough young small forwards already. Adding Eddie Robinson would just be asking for trouble.

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    One more point- you ruined oeilpere's thread by reposting basically the same info that you have here, and changing the focus of that thread.

    Transmerica (across merica?), if nobody cares about your post in this thread, why clutter up a really good thread like oeilpere's FA insights.

    tsk, tsk. [​IMG]

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    Abraham, you've obviously heard rumors of the horrible "185 drill".....makes even the strongest prospect shudder with fear. Big at the Chicago Predraft Camp.


    Eddie Robinson on the Rockets WOULD be devastating, but having only Cato and Collier as our centers would be MORE devastating. We have to focus on the needs first. But damn, you are right...they would be FAST!!!!!!!

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    hey kingrene, eddie robinson is a free agent is he not? i was merely replying to his FA post and yes, i feel strongly about bringing this skywalker to houston, so quit bein' a hata and playa hatin'.

    also, i don't agree with houston's needs to bring in some big people, but i'd rather have a glut of speed and quickness, then a bunch of sorry big men. the only big man i see out there worth signing that is a possibility of signing is marc jackson.

    todd muculloch? he's garbage. absolute garbage. he does have hands and can catch the ball (i guess), but what he does with it afterwards is appalling.

    ben wallace is intrigueing, but i can't be a fan of someone who shoots below 40% on free throws.

    i don't know why y'all are down on eddie robinson. the guy is about to blow up. he just needs some playing time.

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    Houston should sign Eddie Robinson.

    Name a quicker trio than Stevee, Cat, and Eddie Robinson?
     
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    you can't be a playahater if there ain't no playa to hate! [​IMG]

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    i don't know why y'all are down on eddie robinson. the guy is about to blow up. he just needs some playing time.-Trans

    Cuz we already have 3 pretty good sf's. Griffin, Langhi, and T-Mo all have some great potential to blow up also. There is just no room for him here. It's crowded already.

    Also you can't win just on speed alone. You need some size to back it up.

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    Eddie Robinson on the Rockets would be Devestating

    Yes it would. [​IMG]

    A small forward with no shot would never fit on this team. Sweet stroke is about the last thing I can think of when I see Eddie Robinson. He has problems consistently making 10 foot jumpers, and is actually pretty horrible from anywhere outside of 16 feet. He's athletic... and that's pretty much it. If the Rockets wanted an athletic freak, they could've gone after Gerald Wallace in the draft. He'll have the same impact.

    Quick, athletic teams make Sportscenter. They don't win championships. Sure, the Lakers, Spurs, Bulls, etc. had their flashier stars, such as Duncan, Kobe, Jordan, and others. They didn't try to find other flashy players to compliment them-- instead, they went after players to fit needs. If we move Griffin to the 4, we'll already have one of the quickest teams in the NBA. We have speed. We need someone who can play solid defense, hit the open shots on offense, pass the ball, rebound, and essentially fit in with the cast we already have in place. If you want to move Eddie Griffin to the 4, Terence Morris is both a better and cheaper option than Eddie Robinson at the 3.

    Also, let me get this straight. You really think the Rockets will let Mo Taylor go, a player who loves the city, fits in great with the team and chemistry, and brings the playmaking ability they need in a big man for an athletic phenomenon who has done nothing to deserve the type of contract he seeks? I hope you don't expect it, cause it sure isn't going to happen.

    If Robinson wants more than 3-4 million a year, pass on him. He isn't worth much more.

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  16. CriscoKidd

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    LOL, "ERobb" sucks.

    the dude is NOT a 3 point threat. The dude is NOT a good defender. He has a good mid range jumper. He is very athletic. Thats it. Eddie Robinson wants freaking 6 million dollars a year. WTF? He isnt worth half that right now. We have better sfs with potential in Griffin, Tmo, and Langhi. (hell, id prefer Bull, at least he can hit a shot and plays about as good d as robinson).

    You can cross Robinson off your wish list, because Rudy and co wont bring that scrub in for 6 mill a year to sit on the IR all season.

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    I think Eddie Robinson should be given the nickname "the revolving door" for his defensive capabilities - a wing defender he is NOT!

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