Jalen Green has played 20 games so far, here is a look at his first 10 games vs. his last 10 games

Never underestimate how much casuals like flashy scoring over things that actually help teams win.

They really will pick the one way flashy player who is a net negative over the guy who helps carry the team.

 

Scoring at a high efficiency always helps teams. Green for the past 15 games has been scoring at 60% ts. So his "flashy scoring" would help any team. And he's doing that scoring mostly from creating himself rather than relying on young top all-star level guards of the league feeding him.

 

Not when you are so pathetic at defense you give up more points than you score. Green has never been a net positive player at any level as a professional. Will that change one day? Will he finally break even? Maybe. Not this year though.

 

This is why threads like the one where all the Mobley fans that just won't drop it and were ready to crown Mobley as the next Tim Duncan and comparing Jalen to ridiculous players like Gerald Green before they've even played half a season are f***** stupid.

They're both going to have great NBA careers most likely.

 

I find it quite unfair for u to b so hard on a rookie. Yes his defense need work, but our team has so many issues.

Toxic work environment , diva coworkers. Weak ass coach. I say it's quite impressive that he was willing to improve when he was out. At least u can't fault him for that.

I'm just glad he isn't a bust like so many of folks predicted. He wasn't even put in the best situation but he made the most out of it and improved, hopefully he ups his game even more.

 

Green has a way to go, but you one-sided thinking is getting old. His defense has been improving and every team needs an alpha dog on offense. He played a tremendous game last night and has gotten consistently better on both sides of the court since his return from injury.

 

Hmmm will a NINETEEN year old who hasn't grown into his body and has played all of 20ish games in the NBA improve his defense...

What a ridiculous comment to make. The only way that wouldn't be a dumb take is if he was giving no effort.

 

It only seems like I'm hard on him becuase the hype is laughably ridiculous and I'm being real. I'm glad that he's looking like he could end up being a reliably one way player by the end of the year....that's still to be seen, but when he finally has a couple of decent games on offense while still being terrible defensively....so much so that the Rockets are better off with him off the court still, and the talk is abotu ROY.....C'mon.

I have high hopes that if he can manage to become a one way player by the end of the year perhaps one day he could learn how to be at least decent defensively and that would lead to him being a net positive on the court one day....but the talk abotu him is still as if he's some kind of future franchise player and that's just laughable. He doens't have that kind of upside. We're just hoping he can be a solid starting caliber player one day.

 

His defense outside of a couple of casesof ball watching has been solid since coming back. Sure his size has lost him a couple of battles but the on ball defense has been good for the most part. The effort is also there.

 

You're able to make that assessment after 20 games in the NBA? Do you have the winning PowerBall numbers for tonight's drawing? Or better yet since you're such an amazing scout, I need you to start sending me your daily locks for NBA bets. My job has sucked lately and really would be nice to quit...

Oh and that's what the Thunder said about James Harden when he was about Greens age, actually older by a couple years even. Remind me again how that worked out? Or how about Clint Capela at age 19 versus the guy who had an insane streak of 20/15 games last season?

 

You are not “being real” - you are being factually incorrect. Since he has returned, the team has been far better with him on the court than off (-18 with in 30 minutes, -26 off in 18 minutes). And his average game score has been well above average.

This constant hyperbole does not make you seem objective and realistic - it makes you seem obstinate and ridiculous. No GM or intelligent analyst in the league would say they think he will only be a “solid starter.”

On an unrelated note, why are those with the most definitive, assertive opinions so often wrong, and so often of the same general persuasion? Certainty without curiosity is such a dangerous combination.

 

Truth be told, anybody that was legitimately expecting JG to be prime Kobe at 19 years old is an idiot. Respectfully.

Kobe wasn’t even prime Kobe when he was 19 years old. Think about that. It’s just ridiculous to keep harping that people were comparing the two before the draft and using him as one of JG’s comps when all high draft picks get compared to hall of fame players and then holding that against JG and setting that to be the standard he has to reach for the pick to be successful. Like that is the level he has to reach (arguably the 2nd greatest SG of all time) in order to not be considered a bust. It’s ridiculous. Cade had his comps too and so did Mobley.

 

Jalen’s been playing great. Not sure how one can argue against that.

he needs to work on his all around game clearly.

75% of it is pure bulk… which will always be an issue but he will add wiry strength bill and when he does will improve defensively, rebounding and offensively (he doesn’t finish through contact well now but does great at getting contact).

25/5/5 seasons with ok defense are still potentially in his future for sure.

 

People on this forum really wanted to hitch their wagon to KPJ over Jalen "clearly the best offensive rookie" Green.

Once he gains some weight he'll be the #1 on this team. His playmaking is better than advertised. Gotta get the two black holes outta here and work on that Sengun/Green/Garuba core. Add Ivey or one of the PFs and next year will be even more fun to watch.

 

Jaleen Green is playing just fine. He’s being patient and not chucking shot for the sake of getting his! I’m actually a bit surprised that he is being very selective and not shooting more. But, I’m glad he is saving up his energy on bulk shots to instead take quality shots.

People need to know their own body and be aware there is only so much output in each of us at any given time with the conditioning we have.

I think Green is embracing that him at 90-100% is going to be a superstar. So, as he continues to grow into his body and get stronger, he will be able to juggle his patience, energy, and maximum productivity.

As I see it, Green is doing just fine for a 19 year old playing against actual NBA talent, whom most see as the most talented group (as a unit in any league) in the world.

 

Milestone of sorts reached after last night’s game. We’ve been posting his stats without 2 bigs on the floor and his stats since coming back from the injury because they are so impressive, but he cracked 40% field goal percentage and 33% three point field goal percentage for the first time this season. After such a rough start that is very encouraging. I thought it would take him towards the end of the year to get there the way it was looking, but he did it in only 22 games.

For fun let’s see how busty JG is comparing to the consensus number 1 pick in the draft and most NBA ready prospect who is probably top 3 and at worst 4th in rookie of the year rankings right now.

Season stats
https://stathead.com/tiny/PidIs

Jalen Green:
22 games
30.6 minutes
15.5 PPG on .401 FG% and .331 3P%
.538 TS%
.488 EFG%
2.9 rebounds
2.3 assists
10.5 PER

Cade Cunningham:
25 games
32.4 minutes
15.3 PPG on .383 FG% and .314 3P%
.484 TS%
.454 EFG%
6.2 rebounds
5.2 assists
11.8 PER

 

Mobley is a media darling already, partly because he's deserving but partly because people love how the Rockets passed on him.

He'll win.

 

Green has been playing much better recently.

The Rockets set him up for failure in almost every way possible. Pairing him with a space clogger in Theis, playing him next to a guy in Porter who does absolutely nothing to help him and playing him 30 minutes against starters right away.

I though this before the recent incident, so it only compounds what I already thought, getting Green away from Porter will help him a lot on the floor.

 

Well, I mean, he's objectively the best player in the class thus far, so he should, but there's a lot of casuals that vote for those kinds of things and they are easily swayed by flash.

 

Ok 6'4 like that makes a bit of difference in my point.