1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

NBA Game Action : 12/29/2021

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DreamShook, Dec 29, 2021.

  1. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,828
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    The Celtics went 4-42 from 3 against the Clippers, tonight. 6 players combined for 1-38 lmao.

    Wow, and I thought 27 missed 3s in a row was bad. This is right up there with it.
     
    hakeem94, gfab-babyboi and vator like this.
  2. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    61,924
    Likes Received:
    41,483
    Good lord the Mavericks are crap.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,589
    Likes Received:
    122,008
    Sac just won on an incredible last second shot
     
  4. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    75,360
    Likes Received:
    124,791
    Sacto buzzer beater.. Metu, ChimEASY.
     
  5. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,948
    Likes Received:
    66,406
    The Metu movement finally beats the mavs
     
    vator likes this.
  6. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,379
    Likes Received:
    177,380
  7. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    100,089
    Likes Received:
    49,531
  8. heypartner

    heypartner Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    63,512
    Likes Received:
    59,010
    Lulz at Mavs guarding Halliburton 75’ away. Way too easy to force help in 4x4 spacing.

    Gotta get all 5 defenders back there. Make Halliburton decide between staying out of the play by himself, or force him back into the play to get the game back to 5x5 defense.

    you need that 5th defender 25-30’ out clogging shlt up and still able to track Halliburton, if he decides to come back into the play

     
  9. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    11,418
    Likes Received:
    12,679
    I had heard from a specific group of posters that this strategy was done for 3 reasons

    Harden being fat and tired and lazy
    Harden being angry that others were getting the ball
    Harden quitting
     
    SamFisher and hakeem94 like this.
  10. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,828
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    Anyone have the article, as it's under a paywall?
     
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,379
    Likes Received:
    177,380
    Glenn Robinson III stood ahead of James Harden, looking back at his Rockets teammates signaling coverages. Harden did not have the ball. Instead, he stood mostly idle, tiptoeing toward the perimeter and out of camera view for a majority of the possession. His teammates attempted to execute a 4-on-4 scoring opportunity.

    First, Austin Rivers tried to take advantage of his defender and attacked with his dominant right hand but was unable to get off a floater or layup. Danuel House drove on the closeout, but he also struggled to create penetration. He passed it to Ben McLemore, who was unable to launch a perimeter shot. Meanwhile, Tyson Chandler hovered inside the 3-point line, deciphering when his teammates would need a screen.

    This 4-on-4 possession with Harden standing stationary near midcourt against the Warriors went viral on Christmas. It begged the question: What is Harden doing? Why is Harden standing to the side and not involved?



    This is not uncommon. Ever since Harden was traded to the Rockets in 2012, whenever positioned off-ball offensively, teams would face-guard him. In the past he would stand on the perimeter, either in the slot or top of the key, acting as a fail-safe for an end-of-the-shot-clock isolation or catch-and-shoot opportunity.

    Vid

    In the above example, Harden stood in the opposite slot, ready for a catch-and-shoot attempt if necessary. Jeremy Lin brought the ball up the floor and initiated the offense.

    Fast forward to the 2018-2019 season. More than other teams, the Los Angeles Lakers often had a defender crowd and follow Harden all over the court. In one particular game that Chris Paul was out with injury, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope face-guarded Harden and the Rockets took advantage.

    Vid
    Vid

    In both examples, Harden slowly drifted away from the perimeter and close to the halfcourt line while his teammates executed the offense. The idea was to take away a help-defender from the defense and force four defenders to have to rotate and make crisp rotations in extra space. In doing so, secondary ball-handlers had more freedom to either finish around the rim or draw defenders to create a catch-and-shoot 3-pointer.

    Moving onto the 2019-2020 season, Christmas was not the first time Harden stood alone near midcourt. Often when Russell Westbrook pushes the pace in transition, Harden will take his time across halfcourt, either as a trailer or to provide as much space as possible for his teammates to score.

    With how much the coaching staff has emphasized getting the basketball in Westbrook’s hands early in games and in transition, Harden has made a habit of doing this more and more as the season has gone on.

    Privately, when approached about this topic, coaches discussed the positives and mentioned that Harden creates many scoring opportunities for his teammates. From 4-on-3 when defenses trap Harden, to 4-on-4 when defenses face-guard and he is off-ball or when he has the ball in his hands and creates for others.

    When teams first began implementing double-teams on Harden, the coaching staff was dumbfounded at the lengths opposing defenses went to deny Harden the basketball. Defenses essentially allowed another former MVP in Westbrook to create for himself and others in 4-on-3 situations. In that scenario, the math always favors the Rockets.

    The trapping scheme only works when all five defenders are inside or near the perimeter to make crisp, fast rotations and hard closeouts. Take away two defenders, and the 4-on-3 is an optimal situation for both Westbrook and Eric Gordon to take advantage. Ideally, the coaches want Westbrook adjacent to Harden, where Westbrook can drive to his preferred left hand on rolls and slashes to the rim, with Gordon opposite of Harden for deep catch-and-shoot attempts.

    A similar success rate is seen when Harden takes himself out of plays and creates a 4-on-4 for his teammates.

    Harden often begins offensive possessions with the opposing team’s best perimeter defender pressuring him with or without the basketball. On these 4-on-4 possessions, Harden essentially concedes himself off-ball and makes it a halfcourt game for his teammates.

    Vid

    Opposing defenses know that the Rockets are 14-1 this season when Harden scores 40 or more points in a game. The purpose of their complex schemes is to limit his touches and force his teammates to score. This is why the best perimeter defender always shades Harden.

    You would think having the best perimeter defender face-guard Harden would be a blessing and deny the Rockets offense to develop a rhythm. However, that leaves Westbrook and three other players to contend against defenders that are not quite as good.

    When Harden takes himself out of plays and stands stationary away from the perimeter, near halfcourt, or even toward the sideline, that is one less defender, one less player, and more empty space in the halfcourt on which ballhandlers can capitalize.

    In these 4-on-4 situations, Westbrook often isolates and attempts to get near the basket, an area where he’s shooting 58 percent. As of Jan. 15, Houston was 15-2 in games where he shoots 43 percent or better from the field. With his fingers back to normal, it’s no coincidence that he had shot 43 percent or better in eight of his 12 games (10-2 record) through Jan. 15.

    [​IMG]

    Watching Harden on these possessions, the same patterns occur. Harden takes the lengthy defender away from the play, often away from the camera angle completely. Westbrook isolates in the middle of the floor. Two or three shooters go deep in the corners or toward the sideline in the slot, creating empty voids of space. Westbrook beats the initial defender off the dribble to create a layup for himself or penetration for a catch-and-shoot attempt.

    A major critique is how uninvolved and disinterested Harden looks on some of these possessions. But these plays add up and ultimately help him conserve energy in parts of the game where he gets tired. As the engine of a top offense in the league, and as a player who needs the basketball in his hands, he will take possessions off. And strategically, this alignment of 4-on-4 still creates efficient and optimal scoring opportunities.

    Coach Mike D’Antoni discussed Harden’s off-ball play with The Athletic, emphasizing that defenders never help off of him and that he would not like Harden to move around off-ball with the way defenses are playing.

    “Where to go?” D’Antoni said on the reason he would not want Harden to move around with how teams are defending him. “I mean, are you going to get into Russell’s way? Russell’s going to the hoop. So just stand there. If they come off, he’s going to catch-and-shoot. But to move around and run around and get him tired for no reason? No. You can’t make James more efficient, I don’t think, than what he is. I think it’d just wear him down.”

    Recently, some defenders have caught onto this. They will leave him near the sideline or deep beyond the perimeter to stunt at Westbrook or another ball-handler driving to the rim. Harden and the Rockets must adjust.

    Although only 4.4 percent of his possessions are spot-up attempts, Harden is in the 90th percentile and is shooting 49 percent on such attempts. To deny predictability, more catch-and-shoot attempts could be a positive for the offense.

    Moving forward, teams will create schemes intended for Harden to have to move and create without the basketball. Westbrook and Harden have struck a great balance in the first half of the season, but issues remain that need to be fixed. This doesn’t mean having Harden and Westbrook come off staggered off-ball screens or fancy halfcourt sets. However, implementing more 1/2 pick-and-roll, which will become more common late in the season, will give Harden more off-ball possessions as a screener. This will allow Harden to defer to Westbrook, achieve the same positives from the current 4-on-4 possessions, and create advantageous offensive opportunities.
     
    Juxtaposed Jolt likes this.
  12. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    they are tanking to get luka more help....
     
    Killatron 2000 likes this.
  13. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,828
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    Thank you!
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now