Even though I don't agree with you drapg, I applaud your honesty. I still would've gave up the ball because as someone else posted, it's just a ball.
Looking at these pictures, I have an all-new thought on this, stated as follows: What a freaking dork!
Looking at a still picture is one thing. The reality of what happen is different though. Everything happen so fast, what that man did was just instinctual to him. Would I have done what he did? No. But I can see how he could have instinctualy went for the ball, fell over the row of chairs, and being caught up in the thrill of it all, never have been conscious of the shooken up kid, till way after the fact. And once he had the ball and realized what he did, it was to late to make amends, because he was being forced and prodded to give the ball to the kid, by half drunks who were booing him and calling him names, so then it was not about the kid, but about not giving in to those who were chastizing him and challenging him. Like for instance that announcer who came and ridiculed him on national tv, that announcer should of got a pie in his face. Thinking he is doing a just thing for his city by showing the people what a bad guy this is because he went for a loose ball out of the thrill of the moment and hit a kid with his legs and didn't give the kid the ball. Oooh the travesty. Would I have given it to the kid, yes. would most others, probably so. but this guy didn't, so what. Back to the game. No need for the nation to go to bed at night thinking about how some people in this world are so terrible because they didn't give a shooken up kid a baseball. I'm thinking the guy may have a lawsuit on his hands. That announcer went down their to interview him with one purpose in mind, with the intention of ridiculing him on national tv and making his life a living hell; which i'm sure it is; he probably can't walk to the grocery store without being chastized and threatned by hypocrites who every day of their lives do things 100 times worse than he did. And thats usually how it is, he will recieve the most grief from those really rotten individuals; what other type of person would make such a big deal out of such a small thing, a small mistake.
I'm not saying I would sue. Lets make that clear. But if this guy wanted to, he may have something. The tv station, tbs or whatever its called, went out of their way to make this guy seem like the worst man to walk the streets of Atlanta. I guarantee you his life is real bad right now because of their attacks on him, attacks that went way overboard, imo. They just couldn't let it go and they would not leave the guy alone.
They just couldn't let it go and they would not leave the guy alone. Texas was getting smacked around 12-0, they had to talk about something.
Tell the Rangers...or Fox Sports..or whoever...that I'll take their case at a reduced fee just to help defend them from this guy!!
It happened at a Rangers game. I don't know where you get TBS and Atlanta from. You are so confused, how are we supposed to take your point seriously
the only reason you guys would have given the ball to the kid would be b/c everyone at the stadium got on your ass about it. i respect the guy for not giving in. it was a spur of the moment thing. i'm sure he really wanted to kick the kid in the head. all that was needed was an apology to the kid. look, alot of adults and kids get pushed around for foul balls all the time. scrambling for balls is a part of the baseball culture.
only for dorks. seriously, if you're diving into the seat with the 4 year old in front of you...the 4 year old that's been sitting there the whole freaking game...you're a freaking dork. seriously. that's it. grabbing a freaking baseball, which are sold at every sporting goods store across the country, is not more important than not diving on a 4 year old. ridiculous. i can't believe we're even arguing this. "sorry kid...sorry i'm a dork and freaking kicked you in the eyes. sorry i weigh in at about 220 and you're probably around 35 pounds....sorry about that...i'm going back up to my seat now to get booed and root for my favorite fantasy league players. bye."
No one is yelling at him for not giving the kid the ball. Everyone is yelling at him because he unintentionally kicked the kid then raised the ball like he is badass. The kid started crying in his mother's lap. He could have given him the ball right then but he didn't, and when he was interviewed he said he wouldn't give the ball for anything. So stop trying to make him a savior that didn't back down to public pressure.
Calling him a dork is like calling someone stupid. It doesn't help your argument and it's pointless to keep on making him out to appear evil. Again, I don't think what the guy did was the best in judgement and it's not about an object. It's the fact that it's a ball that was used in a major league baseball game that he's paid probably $50 to see. How is saying the same ball is sold at a sporting goods store comparable to a ball ("caught" as he said on television) he dove for? It's not even close; that ball meant something to him because it's probably the only time he ever had such a chance like that. The kid shouldn't even be a point here. This is probably the only thing I'll ever agree on with drapg , that kids are 'bad'. As I stated before, I don't think young kids should be at a game. But going back to where those seats are, we have to assume they're quite expensive. So the argument saying that if he wanted a ball so badly he could go and buy one is just as useful to the [spoiled] kid and the family. Where did this unwritten rule of giving a ball to a young kid originate??? WHat evidence was there that the kid actually wanted the ball??? Again, the kid wasn't going for it; the mother was. The kid cried for unspecified reasons (it's concluded that he was either hurt by an unintentional kick or he was emotionally upset with the commotion). What the TV station did was just plain wrong and stupid; they're geting paid to televise a BASEBALL GAME, not some overdramatized, small event in the stands. The situation should have been dealt with solely by the fans, booing him if they chose to. That should have been the end of it. Instead it was dragged out and thus the TV crew interrupted the man's enjoyment of an expensive baseball game, as well as the kid and his mother who, in my mind, DIDN'T SEEM TO INTERESTED in the game. Lastly, if he had given in and gave the kid the ball (it's agreed that all he should have done was check to see if the kid was hurt and no, he shouldn't have acted like he made the greatest catch), he would be left with nothing and leaving the stadium, he would be just as hated as he currently is.
AGAIN!!!! IT'S NOT ABOUT GIVING THE BALL TO THE KID!!! I DON'T CARE IF HE GAVE THE BALL TO THE KID. I CARE THAT HE DOVE ON TOP OF THE KID TO GET THE BALL. it's a dorky thing to do...as such, i'll call him a dork. i dont' care if it helps my argument...my argument isn't even an argument...i'm not trying to win a case here. His dorkiness is self-evident and needs not attestation or evidence to prove it up. It is simply because it is. i'm not defending the reporters at all...but that doesn't diminish the sheer dorkiness of said act. man...you guys take your rules of civil procedure here very seriously. "what are you, a lawyer?" -- Max Fischer
Oh, I thought your career life was connected to your BBS life. But if you see the video, the kid wasn't going for the ball. Yes, it's not the point we are 'discussing', but he also didn't dive 'on-top- of the kid. At the very most the kid was nudged over about a foot. I'm all about specifics.
i just can't begin to understand the idea that these baseballs...foul balls...have some intrinsic value. i love MLB. i love the houston astros. you guys know that. but it is of zero value to me to possess a ball that Biggio fouls off on a 2-1 pitch in the 3rd inning of the 67th game of the season. i could literally not care less. i can't imagine knocking people over for it. i understand entirely if it's a ball that will have some value...barry bonds' 74th. i get that, even if i wish people wouldn't treat other people like crap to get it. but the idea of pushing a kid out of the way to catch a foul ball to me is among the dorkiest things i've ever heard. if i were sitting near the guy he'd be hearing it from me the whole rest of the game. and i PRAY he'd sue me!!!
I think it's pretty obvious which posters have kids and which don't. Under no circumstance should a giant slob get a free pass for going after a stupid baseball and kicking a child, intentional or not. When you people have kids, you'll feel different about such a situation.
We may have had our differences in the past, but we're seeing eye to eye on this one brother! Dorks? I think not. Yes, I am a dork, but not for this reason. Rather b/c I post on a BBS all day.
i'm not saying you're a dork...but I reserve the right to change that opinion if you knock over my kid to grab a baseball.
