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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rockets34Legend, Jun 1, 2004.

  1. GoatBoy

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    As I said, we Lakers have Detroit just where we want them. No Detroit tanks will ever enter LA. In fact, in gave 5, we will defeat them three times and win the Championship.
     
  2. Tom Archer

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    Funny stuff! In fact, I was wearing my "There are no American indidels in Baghdad. Never!" t-shirt while I watched the game!
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    Once again, Shaq shoots a ridiculously good percentage and once again, Bryant has more shot attempts than he does at a 32% clip. Shaq took 1 shot in the last 5 minutes. Does LA not realize where their strength lies?

    Btw, this is one of the most enjoyable Finals in years. I have 2 goals for every postseason: (1) Rockets win and (2) Lakers lose. It was looking like a miserable postseason until Detroit stepped up.
     
  4. Rockets34Legend

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    If you read here, this is an outstanding defense squad who want to win a title w/o the glitter and glamour:

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../ap/20040614/ap_on_sp_ba_ga_su/bkn_nba_finals

    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. - Poised and primed for a title, the Detroit Pistons (news) took care of business, while the Los Angeles Lakers (news) were losing their cool. Building a lead early in the fourth quarter and holding it the rest of the way, the Pistons moved one victory closer to their first championship in 14 years with a convincing 88-80 victory Sunday night in Game 4 of the NBA Finals (news - web sites).

    With a 3-1 lead, the surprising Pistons have made one thing crystal clear: They are the superior team, winning without egos and superstars — and the problems that come with them.

    "They have got a coach who won nine championships," Detroit coach Larry Brown said. "They have got two of the greatest players that are in their prime, so we can't take anything for granted. That's the thing we're going to talk about."

    These were some of the scenes Pistons fans will cherish: Chauncey Billups making timely 3-pointers, Rasheed Wallace backpedalling downcourt with a minute left after making a jumper that capped his best game of the playoffs; Richard Hamilton calmly knocking down free throws.

    As for the Lakers, the snapshots were these: Kobe Bryant screaming at the referees and picking up a late technical foul; Shaquille O'Neal yelling at someone in the Lakers' huddle, most likely Bryant, after two particularly egregious shot selections; Karl Malone staying parked on the bench for the entire fourth quarter, a nonfactor again; Gary Payton getting toasted by Hamilton again.


    It's almost over for these Lakers, their breakup possibly coming in the next week. No team has ever come back from a 3-1 deficit in the finals, and the Lakers seem ill-equipped to become the first.

    Game 5 is Tuesday night, and the Pistons — heavy underdogs when the series began — could become the first team to bring the title back to the Eastern Conference since Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls (news) won it in 1998.

    "Well, a disappointing night tonight," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said. "We got caught off-guard in the fourth quarter and were not able to handle the run they made in the fourth quarter sufficiently.

    "Give credit to the Pistons."

    Wallace scored 26, Billups had 23 and Hamilton 17 to lead Detroit, which outscored the Lakers 32-24 in the fourth quarter.

    "We're just tough to play when we can get 'Sheed going like that," Billups said.

    O'Neal had 36 and Bryant 20 for the Lakers, whose dysfunctional two-man show isn't enough to keep up with Detroit's depth and determination.

    O'Neal took 21 shots and made 16, and he might have doubled those totals if his teammates had gotten him the ball more often. But Bryant somehow found it necessary to launch 14 attempts in the first half and 25 overall, many of which were both unwise and off-target.

    No one else on the Lakers had more than eight points, and Los Angeles again was outrebounded and plagued by fouls.

    "My shots, some of them were good and some of them stunk — that's pretty much every game with me," Bryant said. "I think everyone's a little down right now."

    Detroit made 29 field goals and 28 foul shots and scored 21 points on the fast break in what was the closest game of the series until the Pistons broke it open with a 7-0 run for a 77-67 lead with 4:52 left. The Lakers got no closer than seven the rest of the way as the Pistons made shots — whether from the field or the foul line — when they needed them.

    "It was just my night," said Wallace, whose previous high in this postseason was 22. He shot 10-for-23 with 13 rebounds and two blocks, while Billups shot 7-for-12 and Billups was 5-for-11.

    None of those lines was anything spectacular, and that was fitting for a team that gets the job done efficiently if not beautifully.

    "We can play with this team," insisted O'Neal. "We haven't played well yet or shown it yet.

    "It's a big challenge for us, and the stage is set," O'Neal said. "The pressure is on them, they have to close us out."


    It was widely expected that Jackson would change his starting lineup or rotations, especially after five of the Lakers' veterans — O'Neal, Bryant, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher and Devean George — had an off-day conference with Jackson in a restroom at The Palace, pleading with him to put his trust in them since they know his triangle offense best. But Jackson went with his usual starting five.

    Though the Lakers botched their first couple of possessions, they quickly began getting the ball to O'Neal deep in the low post. His first two shots were dunks, his next two were 5-footers from either side of the basket, and the fifth was an alley-oop dunk. O'Neal went 5-for-5 in a first quarter that ended with the Lakers ahead 22-21.

    After missing a shot, O'Neal hit his next two midway through the second quarter and yelled "Try to stop that!" to no one in particular with an animated expression on his face. The pace of the quarter was slow thanks to 16 fouls before Mike James took control and ran two fast breaks by himself, converting both times to help Detroit to a 41-39 halftime lead.

    Wallace began to carry the Pistons in the third quarter, dominating his matchup with Slava Medvedenko after Malone left the game. A late 6-0 run by the Lakers, ending with a steal and dunk by Bryant, produced a 56-56 deadlock entering the final period.

    Hamilton hit two jumpers to open the fourth quarter, Ben Wallace rebounded his own missed free throw and banked it in for a 65-60 lead, and a 3 by Billups made it 70-64 with 6:20 left

    After the Lakers got within three, Billups hit another 3-pointer to start the game-deciding 7-0 run.

    "I told them how proud I was," coach Larry Brown said. "But no matter how you look at it, you've got to win four games in the series."

    Notes:mad: For the fourth straight game, O'Neal was called for a jump ball violation on the opening tip. ... Rasheed Wallace got his first technical foul of the series and second of the postseason for jawing at Medvedenko after fouling him in the third quarter. Medvedenko also got a tech on the play. ... Recording artist Kid Rock sang an a cappella rendition of "America The Beautiful," and yes, he did remove his hat.
     
  5. Lil Pun

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    1 more!!!!!!! Go Pistons Go!!!
     
  6. GoatBoy

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    Yeah, right. All the pressure is on Detroit now.
     
  7. Tigerknee

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    Unbelievable some of these fans....
     
  8. B-Bob

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    Well, I thought I was smart, but I still thought the Lakers would win it. What's really surprised me is the extent to which Prince (et al.) can shut down Kobe.

    As others have said, I was absolutely shocked by what I saw in game #4. Shaq should have had at least 50 points. He was nimble, making quick moves and taking it to the hoop. Unbelievable that he did not touch the ball on every possession! For me, this absolutely cements Kobe as a sub-Jordan. I just can't stand any further comparison talk. Jordan would have taken better shots and he would have fed someone like Shaq the rock all night long. Why? Because he knew basketball and craved the WIN more than anything else.
     
  9. GRENDEL

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    “and I looked and saw a pale horse and on it a rider who’s name was death. Behind him Hell followed…” - Karla Malone before he falls on his samurai sword and does the right thing..:D
     
  10. Easy

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    It's funny to hear the LA media and fans scream this morning: "Give Shaq the damn ball!" "Kobe has low BB IQ!"

    Haha, sounds very familiar to us, doesn't it?
     
  11. HAYJON02

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    It's nice to see that hard work and good defense can get you a championship. Refreshing.
     
  12. real_egal

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    Hmmm, not so sure about that assumption. Coz MJ didn't have someone like Shaq. Sure he shared some balls and even gave up critical last shots to Luc and Kerr like, but Kobe did the same thing. The question is, could MJ stand to run every trip down the court through a Shaq, like some are asking Kobe to do now, especially after Kobe saved Lakers single-handedly repeatedly? I doubt it, due to his super ego (or responsibility, or ambition).
     
  13. SamCassell

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    MJ would have taken those shots, but then he would have made them, too. It's not a mistake if you make em. MJ > Shaq > Kobe.
     
  14. noemi

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    I just hope that the Pistons win tomorrow and end Karla Malone's misery. I am so tired of the Lakers arrogance, I am so tired of their disrespect to basketball game, to the opposing teams, they think that they can just turn "on" their game anytime they want.

    Go Pistons !!!!
     
  15. Rockets34Legend

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    I'm just tired of the Lakers. The Showtime crap, Shaq and Kobe gleaming w/ their rings, Phil Jackson, etc. It all sucks. Finally Detroit has stepped up and knocked some reality into them.
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    I want the Pistons to win it all in a major way, BUT I would like the Lakers to win the next game (or two) ~ it would create some nice drama. Pistons in 7 would be exciting...
     
  17. B-Bob

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    To say Kobe "did the same thing" by saying he passes to Shaq just like MJ passed to... uh... Longley and Kerr? It's like comparing a big grapefruit to a few grapes, but let's be absurd and say Shaq = Longley + Kerr for a moment. Shaq was on FIRE last night, and Kobe had... two assists. We'll never know for sure, but somehow I believe MJ would have had more than two assists last night, and if he took more shots than Shaq, he would have shot more than 32%. Just my take though; it's fun to speculate.
     
  18. Uprising

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    I would wrather see them get their asses handed to them in a 4-1 series loss. Man, they can't win with GP, Malone, Kobe, and Shaq.

    .....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    .....HA.

    Go Pistons!!! :D
     
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    I don't think the Lakers have much of a shot ~ this series reminds me a lot of the Rockets and the Magic for some reason (less the miracle KB shot). The Pistons really need to close this out in game 5 or there will be drama back in LA...
     

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