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Jalen Green “not going to play anytime soon”

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. hakeem94

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    Very much a fan of not only the Rockets, but each of their players and wish them well, but have no problem debating and installing a purview that not all things are as bad as a certain group of critics wish they were. Impossible to tell what Green will be with all the commotion surrounding the team. Eagerly anticipating his reintroduction to the lineup to see if the arc continues to accelerate as it was before he went down.
     
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    if alpi starts tonight it means they decided to give him a shot at ROY instead of jalen
     
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    Bad shooters dont set shooting records. everyone here saying his shot is broken and that he is suddenly a liability as a shooter are jumping the shark. Could he be in a shooting slump? All of his stats prior to these 18 games would qualify him as a competent shooter. So why go overboard lambasting him at every turn? You a shooting coach? Let me guess you saw a tweet from an irrelevant twitter account and took it as gospel? There are plenty of videos from more credible sources who would argue what you are trying to install as truth. "His shot is not sustainable" LOL Okay!
     
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    Agree, except that it's "jumping the gun." "Jumping the shark" describes the moment when a show or creative work starts it's decline from popularity. It comes from when Fonzie jumped the shark on Happy Days.
     
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    Flukes happen kiddo.

    You say he's in a "shooting slump"....but more likely he just occassionally has fluke hot shooting games then he goes back to normal.

    The original Corey Brewer had games where he went 6 for 8 from 3 in seasons where he shot under 27% from 3.

    Face it, you were fooled into thinking he was a competent shooter based on a small sample hot streak and you refuse to accept the obvious when that narrative has been disproven.

    Your idol may one day learn how to shoot, but you'll just have to be patient and wait for that to happen.

    Or, ya know, you can just keep embarrassing yourself here.
     
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    I know we covered this briefly in another interaction, but I never asked - can you show me the data that leads you to believe he's a bad shooter? You are acting as though it's a fact that he is a poor shooter, and his g league stint was a "hot streak". You said that the narrative of him being a good shooter has been "disproven" already. What other numbers are you going off of? Is there a stat page for his high school or AAU stats?

    This is a serious question, I truly don't know where you're getting this stuff from.
     
  9. Verbal Christ

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    my age is showing. :oops:
     
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    User @Corrosion compiled a post where he broke down his splits in relation to "open by X amount" where the numbers are not favorable at all. To use the small sample as a foregone conclusion and labeling him a bad shooter and blaming "shooting form" and other subjective claims to prop up the argument is where the healthy debate gets pushed aside for pettiness. Good shooters have shooting slumps - its part of the game.
     
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    i'd request that we just talk about his injury status in this thread... as i check it every few days for that, yet i don't see that...
     
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    Well, let's see, he's shooitng 27% from 3 with a high volume and most of his shots being open or wide open. That pretty much disproves the narrative that he's a quality shooter.

    Even in the G league, he had 3 games where he was either 0-7 or 0-6 from 3....he just had a couple of really hot shooting games that was able to boost his 3 point percentage enough to fool those who wanted to belive he was a competent shooter. Most games he was terrible. One game where he's 6 for 8 and another where he's 5 for 6 helps skew the average but it doesn't change the fact that he was terrible in most games.

    There's a reason he wasn't even a net positive to his team even in the G league.

    He fooled those who wanted to be fooled by flash and BS and now those people are lashing out now that it's obvious they bought a lemon.
     
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    Report: Jalen Green closer to Rockets return than Kevin Porter Jr.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jalen-green-closer-rockets-162208783.html


    I think late december / early January is likely the timetable.

    EDIT: Just a shame it looks like he'll miss the detroit game, I know how bad he probably wants to play in that one.
     
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    if we take out that 1 game where he went 8 of 10 from behind the arc

    that leaves us with 17 games where he went 24 of 105 from behind the arc

    that's 22%
     
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    deserves its own thread
     
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    Wiggins was actually super hyped coming into the league and I think for the same reason.

    One thing that made Green such a great prospect is his athleticism, you can never take that away from a guy or overlook that. I've seen Green already just...blip past some of the best defenders as if they weren't there. He improves his handling and shooting he drops 30 with ease on any given night. I truly believe that and I also believe that it is inevitable that he'll get better. Just my opinion and it's always been my opinion before the draft too (even as someone that preferred Mobley) the big question with Green will be his defense.

    It needs to be, in the end, average and tolerable so that his offensive game can have the game winning impact we need it to have.
     
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    Wiggins was way way more hyped than Green ever was. He was suppose to be the next Lebron out of high school. Teams were actively tanking for him. I don't remember teams tanking for Green, only for Cunningham. Green would like a Jabari Parker amount of hype or maybe RJ Barrett, a second choice when you don't get the real treasure.

    EG was also way more polished out of high school and college, and hyped more too if I remember correctly out if high school.

    Just shows you drafting is such a crap shoot, people have unrealistic expectations every year
     
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    What about if you take out the game where he went 3/16 against Utah? What are his stats like then?
     
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    Wiggins nickname before being drafted was "Maple Jordan" so yes, there was crazy hype surrounding him.
     
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    About the last part, I think we need to worry about team building first and not get carried away by what will become of Green.

    Let the chips fall where they may.

    I get the athleticism part and blowing past defenders.

    You can't really measure those, unless by points scored and efficiency.
     

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