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[Official] Astros Off-Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 3, 2021.

  1. IdStrosfan

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    Tucker, Suzuki, and __________. Would be a great outfield.

    Leon, Meyer, McCormick, Siri, Brewer, Barber or whoever else "makes it" by developing into a solid starting OF

    I have to think Tucker is in left with most of those combinations, which is where I prefer him.
     
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  2. Madmanmetz

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    I agree Tucker in a corner spot. Seiya Suzuki would be average at best in CF from what I've read and in MMP you really need above average to great.

    Seiya Suzuki would hit great at MMP with the Crawford boxes but I have to believe he'll get more from some other team. Maybe you sign him if you had a deal set up for Uncle Mike or Yuli to move elsewhere, then you could move Yordan to 1B/DH with limited LF play. Seems far fetched he'll be here.
     
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  3. HTown2017Champs

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    I'd say at least Altuve and maybe Correa are at or near that level. Bregman definitely felt that way in 2018-19. Plus we're playoff regulars. Just saying. Supposedly the Red Sox are the only team he follows on IG, and he follows a lot of their players, not just stars. We'll see.
    As far as Tucker, I've always liked him in RF the best. His arm isn't that great, but I like his route running and instincts in RF very well. At MMP, LF is more about playing the bounces and caroms off the walls, which was something he wasn't as good at when he mostly played there. It also doesn't let him use his speed and athleticism as much. There's a reason why he was a GG finalist in RF, and he should stay there. Just me, though.
     
  4. toby

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    Anyone worried about Espada?
     
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  5. Nick

    Nick Member

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    Or maybe he just recognizes which team has been far/away the best team in all of baseball the last 5 years, and those are the best players on said best team…
     
  6. Nook

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    Not really. He is a good coach and well liked but the Astros have a number of good coaches.
     
  7. IdStrosfan

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    Astros rotation in 2023

    Let's say that neither Verlander nor Odorizzi exercise their 2023 options.

    McCullers
    Valdez
    L Garcia
    Whitley
    H.Brown
    Javier
    Urquidy

    Potential.

    How do Astro fans feel about this?
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I think that's a great rotation -- essentially it's the same top of rotation that won us the American League this year. Frankly, we don't have room for all of those pieces and could potentially move 1-2 of them for help elsewhere.
     
  9. STR8Thugg

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    I've written off Whitley at this point, but sure it would be sweet if he's in the big leagues before the age of 30
     
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  10. Squirtle

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    Agreed. I've written him off too. Prove me wrong Whitley.
     
  11. Htown Legend

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    Could be. I was just pointing something out that I found interesting.
     
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  12. Nick

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    Should know more about framber/urquidy/Javier/Garcia ' future ceilings based on the next 2-3 years. You'll also know more about their ability to stay healthy.

    Right now, Garcia appears to have the highest ceiling based on last year, and his age, but we all know how fast that can change. Urquiddy seems to be the most likely to require some sort of arm surgery based on last year, although the shoulder did apparently recover with basic rest enough for him to have one of his best starts of the year in the WS.

    Javier' future role still TBD. He needs a routine but may not have the stamina with effectiveness to start for a full season.

    Framber needs to get more of those psychology sessions in. When he's confident with his command, he's actually right up there with being the best starter this team has. Seems more mental than physical at this point.
     
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  13. IdStrosfan

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    I agree that Framber is the starter most effected by emotions. But he is also the one guy on this list that has proven he can go 6+IP 120 pitches every time out if he can keep his head on straight. ( other than a healthy and recovered Verlander)

    I think that Whitley still has potential, but time to prove it. Not a kid anymore. High ceiling but he can't get more than a few inches off the ground.

    Urquidy has a great floor but also the lowest ceiling.

    I agree that there are too many arms at this point.

    Javier needs to be in the rotation.

    I wish they had not panicked and signed Odorizzi. But he is a proven #4-5 starter with a reasonable salary so they should be able to trade him. And he likely wants to be traded.

    If that can be accomplished:

    Verlander
    McCullers
    Valdez
    Garcia
    Javier
    Urquidy- spot/swing man help limit innings.

    If Hunter Brown and/or Whitley have good first half at Sugarland then you look to trade Urquidy or Javier to shore up a weakness at the deadline.
     
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    I hope he doesn't "buff up" to a point where he isn't productive, or can no longer play shortstop.

    I realize he is driving the ball more but he still shouldn't lose his identity and try to become a slugger. ( or only a slugger)

    2018 Tri-City 12.2% K rate. 11.5% BB rate
    2019 A and A+: 19% K and 9.9% BB
    2021 AAA: 26.3% k and 4.5% BB

    I Realize he is facing better and better competition and he lost a year to COVID.

    but increasing K rate and falling BB rate is not a good trend.
     
  16. Nick

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    I just hope he’s not “enhancing”
     
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  17. desihooper

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    Or over-training or eating contaminated hamburgers.
     
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  18. HeyBudLetsParty

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    looks like he’s staying crazy lean so I wouldn’t worry too much about it, especially with the amount of sports science that goes into training these days. Looks like that double power might turn into home run power, could see an easy 20 a year
     
  19. Rockets FTW

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    He’s on the Stanton diet.
     
  20. lnchan

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    I am kind of loving all the complaining about how "the Astros are breaking the rules of the lockout"
     

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