End the travesty. Make the East a development league.

Interesting to read this thread as the Wusstern Conference gets exposed and people realize that perhaps the 3 best teams are in fact the Pistons, Pacers, and Nets.

Sure the next 6 or so teams after that are in the Wusst, but one can't deny that the top 3 in the East can hang with anyone and dominate even.

Stats are inflated in the West because only the Rockets and Spurs play any D at all. These open shots the Pistons are getting are making it easy, since those shots were not there vs. the Pacers or Nets.

I'm waiting for the pundits like Peter May who railed against the "Leastern Conference" to step up to the plate and do a 180.

 

nice call.

 

That really shows how knowledgable we fans are. We all like to say something "smart" about things we know little. I don't think many of us even follow "leastern conference" regularly. Knowing a little is even more dangerous than knowing nothing.

 

Um.....no. The Pistons have now joined the elite group. The rest of the East is still sitting at home waiting for the phone call.

 

I totally agree with you here. I'm from NJ, and I am quite tired of those so called expert (media and fans alike) discount the eastern conference. I'm not surprise that the so-called most dominant team from the west(Faker) get manhandled by Piston. Faker are lucky, they should be down 0 - 3.
Hornat will be playing in west next season, I'm not surprise they will be a top team in the west.

 

I said this before the finals started. The Lakers do not have that extra level of D. One big reason the Pistons looked so bad against the Pacers is Rick Carlisle. Hello folks. He *coached* the Pistons last year. Can you say Gruden versus the Raiders? He definitely knew how to shut them down better than anyone.

I will say I was wrong. I thought the Lakers would look a little better than they have.

 

Exactly! Remember folks, our own Houston Rockets, the team that got beat in five games by these very same Lakers, and couldn't even achieve any better than the SEVENTH SEED in the West when 24-6 (.800 win percentage) against the Eastern Conference! One of those wins was AT Conseco Fieldhouse, another in NJ (I'm discounting the win against the Pisons, they didn't have 'Sheed at the time). In 2000-2001 we were 25-5 against the East.

The Hornets won't make the playoffs next season, I can guaruntee you that. And the Pistons, as much as I'd like to see it happen, are not going to win the title.

 

Which series have you been watching? A luck shot by the Fakers and you are ready to give the title.

What I’ve seen in the first 3 games is a very confused Faker team, even in the game they won.

 

the Worstern Conference will be OK eventually.

these things are cyclical.

 

Um.....no. The Pistons have now joined the elite group. The rest of the East is still sitting at home waiting for the phone call.

Both the Pacers and the Nets were more competitive against the Pistons than the Lakers have been.

 

Exactly! Remember folks, our own Houston Rockets, the team that got beat in five games by these very same Lakers, and couldn't even achieve any better than the SEVENTH SEED in the West when 24-6 (.800 win percentage) against the Eastern Conference! One of those wins was AT Conseco Fieldhouse, another in NJ (I'm discounting the win against the Pisons, they didn't have 'Sheed at the time). In 2000-2001 we were 25-5 against the East.


If you want to use vs. league records, the Pacers (20-8) were better against the West than any western team was.

 

The Pistons were seemingly built to beat a team like the Lakers...Lots of mobile big men(A few of whom can shoot), long athletic swingmen, tenacious rebounders, and quick, efficient guards who can shoot.

This series says absolutely nothing about the Pacers and Nets. All this series proves is that the Pistons are among the elite, though I don't think they would be nearly successful against Minny and SA.

Go Pistons!

 

Umm, three games between two teams suddenly make three teams the best in the league? I guess it's Leastern logic.

Actually, the media are mostly eastern slanted. It took them about two years to really admit that the East was a lousy conference. Only until late last season did they run out of excuses for the poor records of the East teams.

You want to put this on record and prepare to eat some serious crow?

 

simple really

Pistons > Pacers (by a whisker)
Pistons > Nets (by a whisker)

Pistons >>> Lakers (by a lot)

ergo,

Pistons, Pacers, Nets > Lakers and other top teams in the Worstern Conference.

 

i hope you're kidding!

the nba is all about matchups. the equations you're doing, above, simply don't hold up.

 

Nice work gravy-training on the Pistons success through 3 games of a 7 game series. You might want to check your comments until the series is over, I still remember you commenting on the "upcoming" Pacers-Lakers series that didn't seem to materialize.

 

LOL. This logic reminds me of some people on this board who reasoned that since we gave the Lakers about as much trouble as the Spurs did, we were about as good as the Spurs. Or since Yao defended Shaq better than Duncan, Yao is better than Duncan.

 

Yep, or the Logic that Steve playing well against a slow Payton and a defensively flacid Lakers equated to him finally "proving them wrong" and "elevating" his game in "the clutch".

 

For the guy that said Pacers and Nets are greater than the Lakers because they played Detroit close, I would like to state a completely different reason.

The Lakers pre down 2-0 to SA and the Lakers after that are completely different team, they realized what they needed to do.

The pistons before facing elimination with NJ and after it, are two different team. Add to the fact that Rasheed still needed time to fit in with Pistons during the Nets series was a big difference why that series was close. The Pistons - Pacers game, though it went to 6 games, was completely controlled by the Pistons.

 

You really need to buy a TV.

By way of recap, the series consisted of two 15-point blowouts, one by the Pacers in game 4 and one by the Pistons in game 5, and 4 hard-fought games that switched hands in each case in the final minutes.

some memorable nail-biting moments in a series that you say was "controlled"


game 1: Miller's game-winning 3-pointer with 31 seconds to play lifted the Pacers to a 78-74 victory.

game 2: Tayshaun Prince blocks Miller's potential game-tying layup to preserve Detroit's victory in Game 2, and that preserved a 69-67 Pistons lead in the game's final minute. Miller finished with a team-high 21 points, but will be remembered in Game 2 for the layup he didn't make. Prince's block was one of 19 for the Pistons as the two teams combined for 26 blocked shots.

game 6: Indiana arrived in Detroit determined to force a Game 7, but were unable to hold a 14-point lead built in a heartening first half. A late flagrant foul on Artest resulted in a four-point swing that proved to be the deciding margin in the Pacers' 69-65 loss.