1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The 2021-2022 Tank Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bleedroxred79, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    17,079
    Likes Received:
    20,703

    Going to be a lot of cf fights.
     
  2. Tuckankhamun

    Tuckankhamun Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    2,508
    For those wondering if these Rockets are the worst team of all time, the stats actually say no, but not by much.

    Going by SRS alone, the only teams the Rockets come in better than are the 11 win 92-93 Mavs, the 70-71 Cavs, and the infamous 7-win Bobcats.

    This team, the post-Harden Rockets, so far, is worse than the Post-Jordan Bulls, the Process 76-ers, the post-LeBron Cavs, and any iteration of the Clippers, T-Wolves, and Kings.

    Most insane thing is that for as bad as the team is, we're underpeforming out point differential on top of that. We should be on pace for 10-12 wins, we're on pace for 5.

    Big reason I was never in favor of the league trying to reduce tanking, some teams simply throw in the towel and lose more games than they should, but some teams are just that bad, and desperately need more talent.
     
    clos4life, daywalker02 and Corrosion like this.
  3. OkayAyeReloaded

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    3,669
    Likes Received:
    4,874
    Shoutout to i3artow i3aller
    The Garm deserves to know about this.

     
    txtodd and i3artow i3aller like this.
  4. Tuckankhamun

    Tuckankhamun Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    2,508
    Homeboy got lost on the worlds slowest crossover lamo.

    Took a look at his NBADraft.net profile, and the Kevin Durant comparison is laughable.

    I'm an incredibly biased observer either way, as both a UT fan who watched KD back in the day and someone who's rooting for Chet because I want to see a white american dominate in the NBA. Durant averaged 25 per game on near 50-40-90 shooting in college, in the best basketball conference in the country. If he listed himself at 7'0" instead of 6'9" he'd go #1 overall in all but one draft in the last 45 years, 2003 (maybe 1992). Everyone is so fixated on his shooting that people forget how insane of an athlete he is for his size.

    Chet is nice so far, but the speed, the quickness, the length (Durant has 2 inches of wingspan over Chet), and the shooting touch are nowhere near Durant's level. On top of that, Durant did this at 18, Chet is 19 right now.

    Not to say Chet won't become a star, but for hyped up draft comps, Dirk (Mid-2000s version that regularly smoked bigs off the dribble, not 2010s Dirk that only shot jumpers) is a more realistic comp. His success will come from his ability to hit jumpers at an elite rate. He's a smart defender (3.4 BPG!!!) and should pair very well with Sengun and create chaos under the rim. If he applies himself and avoids injury, he'll make a number of All-NBA teams at least, but comparing him to the best prospect since LeBron to this day is absurd.
     
  5. OkayAyeReloaded

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    3,669
    Likes Received:
    4,874
    I wouldn't say laughable but I agree, I don't think he'll be the scorer Durant is, but that is a very short list all time. I've heard Durant, Garnett, Porzingis comparisons etc. Mostly I think it's about the lean frame and unicorn skillset, not the same players but they all were unique in thier size/abilities.

    I don't think Dirk fits either because Dirk never had defensive potential or impact like this. He was an exceptional shooter and offensive player but was an average to decent as a defensive player for most of his career.

    Also I don't focus on his race, but like him because he and Paolo are two of the best star potential players in this draft who happen to be white and biracial, black/Italian.

    Chet has also grown and so has his wingspan. He's listed at a 7'6 wingspan in this Gonzaga article. So matching or higher than Durant if those are accurate.

    Chet Holmgren Bio:
    HIGH SCHOOL: the highest-ranked recruit to ever sign with the Zags ... versatile 7-1 prospect is the top-ranked recruit in the Class of 2021 by ESPN and 247 Sports ... has a seven-foot, six-inch wingspan ... high school teammate and 2020-21 Gonzaga standout, Jalen Suggs, was the Bulldogs' previous highest-ranked recruit as No. 6 in the Class of 2020

    https://gozags.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/chet-holmgren/3945

    As for the crossover, Chet has been doing that for awhile to opposing defenders. This is him at 16 or 17 years old doing it to Steph Curry.



    Here are his highlights from last game. The numbers don't do him justice as it was a blowout but he dominated the #2 UCLA team defensively.

     
  6. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,076
    Likes Received:
    8,055
    I’m fine with either Chet or Paolo. Would we too slow with Segun and Chet in the lineup? Haven’t seen a ton of games for either one, so looking forward to watching both closely all season. If their progression is close and we have a choice, I would take Paola because he would be a better fit. Assuming our rookies work out, a lineup of KPJ, Green, Garuba, Banchero, and Segun could be amazing. Of course, KPJ, Green, KJM, Segun, and Chet might be pretty awesome as well.
     
  7. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    23,641
    Likes Received:
    15,024
    what position is Banchero ?
     
  8. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,076
    Likes Received:
    8,055
    SF or PF. Size-wise he is a power forward, but he is quick enough to play either one.
     
  9. DCHAMP

    DCHAMP Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    Messages:
    885
    Likes Received:
    474
    mann whyd the lottery rules have to change when the rockets were tanking
     
    Tuckankhamun likes this.
  10. i3artow i3aller

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2008
    Messages:
    20,163
    Likes Received:
    37,874
  11. YaoMing#1

    YaoMing#1 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    5,482
    Likes Received:
    4,937
    If the Rockets draft Chet Holmgren I’ll buy season tickets again.

    watching this young man play gets me excited about basketball.

    Paulo looks good too but IMO Iv seen him in the NBA already he looks like Julius Randall which I certainly would take on this team he’s a stud.

    but Chet looks like some kind of made up player. He’s gonna be really good or really bad but if he is god he’s a defensive player of the year guy who avg 20/10/5.

    when I watch him dribble being lanky he looks like KD he’s shotblocking looks like Anthony Davis in college and his turn around fades look like Dirk. He’s an intriguing player. I want the rockets to get him.
     
    RasaqBoi likes this.
  12. MystikArkitect

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    10,601
    Likes Received:
    15,922
    Durant wasn't in Chet's stratosphere defensively.
     
    Corrosion and RasaqBoi like this.
  13. DatRocketFan

    DatRocketFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    11,769
    Likes Received:
    16,477
    We had our chances over the years. We just refused to tank until it was too late
     
    RasaqBoi and DCHAMP like this.
  14. i3artow i3aller

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2008
    Messages:
    20,163
    Likes Received:
    37,874
    Friendly reminder that Boba Chet's Bulldogs square off against Paolo's Blue Devils tonight.
     
    clos4life likes this.
  15. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    10,837
    Likes Received:
    11,768
    Can't wait!
     
    i3artow i3aller likes this.
  16. OkayAyeReloaded

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    3,669
    Likes Received:
    4,874
    Paolo and Chet are playing each other right now on ESPN.

    Banchero has almost half of Duke's points at halftime.

     
  17. i3artow i3aller

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2008
    Messages:
    20,163
    Likes Received:
    37,874
    2023 Tank Prospect Sterling "Scoot/a" Henderson

    The Santa Cruz Warriors featured both Moody and Kuminga on this night, and yet it was the G-League Ignite's 17 yr old phenom that stole the show. They say his favorite color is (Rockets) red.
     
    dmoneybangbang likes this.
  18. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    20,992
    Likes Received:
    12,866
    Jabari Smith making the top 3 look very interesting.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now