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USA Basketball: Bibby is the latest to say he will not participate

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ron413, Jun 6, 2004.

  1. sup123

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    Dwayne wade, their going after him? what so big about this guy. He is just like francis.
     
  2. DavidS

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    No, it's what insiders, outsiders and the olympic committee thinks of him.

    I mean, come on. How much proof do you need. Francis is not respected because doesn't deserve resepect. What? Should the Olympic committee accept players just because they have "mad skilz" or "a killa cross ova?" Or should they be rewared because they are smart, disciplined, and understand the whole game? The team game!

    Besides, I'm sure they don't want two mini-SGs on the team. They already have Iverson for that role.
     
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  3. DavidS

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    History will prove this to be NOT the case.
     
  4. xiki

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    Sorry, no respect for their staying in. Loss of respect for those, NOT injured, begging out.

    C'mon, they'd play more hoops at a Westside type facility than for the O-Team! (Ask D Miles where he would fear being terrorized more -- while getting rounded up in St L or in Greece?)
     
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    wade? he is slower than francis and sadly his vertical is only 35 inch

    i dont think hes got a better fundamental either
     
  6. acizlan

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    u r wrong! basketball is a team game, but it requires individual skill. dats y Mavs and Kings r goin nowhere with their "team game"
     
  7. DavidS

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    Did I say that we (or Team USA) don't need individuals skills to win? No, I didn't. But Francis is the PG. And his job is not getting done in running this team as a PG. If he wants to be the shooting guard, then let him go another team. TMac would do the job better here.

    Yes, individual skill is needed as well as the team game. You need both! By the way, the Mavs loose because they will not play DEFENSE. The Kings loose because they don't have a "goto guy"; no leadership. We're talking apples and oranges! They have their own problems. And it's not because the Kings or Mavs *do play* the team game. The Rox problems are completly different. Saying the Kings and Mavs loose because they play the "team game" is like saying players do bad because they learn fundaments. Please...
     
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  8. Gutter Snipe

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    Well, this is going to be like an All-Star team. Francis performed the best out of all of the West's point guards in the All-Star game.

    He also just came off of a good performance in the playoffs. He can score, he can create, and he has heart.

    Put him in, Coach!
     
  9. vj23k

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    Do you mean the future? History actually proves that Dwayne Wade wasn't as good as Francis as a rookie.

    3.21 turnovers on a team where he isn't always the primary ballhandler? :eek:
     
  10. DavidS

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    Yes, I was talking about the future (implying that Wade should improve). In regards to Francis's rookie year, I don't think that his rookie 3.97 TO rate should be overlooked just because he was the primary ball-handler, and Wade is not (shared responsibility with Odom and Alston). That should be a reason to question his competence. Not excuse it.

    Besides, Wade role is more SG-like (like Francis). Not a PG. And even then, his TO rate is 3.21 compared to 3.97. And if his TO rate was to drop below 3.0 (future), what would you say then? I'm not saying that I think that Wade's 3.21 TO rate is that good. I don't. But, I do feel that he will improve on this. Something that Francis has not done in five years (still at 3.7 career).

    This is something that I kept saying to myself (in 1999) during Francis rookie season. I thought that Francis would improve, and felt that Francis mistakes could be dismissed as "rookie mistakes." I'm willing to give Wade time. But if he stagnates for five years, then he will be in the same boat that Francis is in now.
     
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    this USA team doesnt look like its a lock to win the gold. Teams like China, with Yao, and Argentina are gonna be a big obstacle.
     
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    I was really just being a smartass and pointing out the history/future thing.

    Based on only their rookie seasons, I would have said that Steve Francis was the more promising. More explosive, better shooter, and he became the best player on his team almost immediately. Dwayne Wade plays way too controlled of a game to be averaging 3.21 TO's a night.
     

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