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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. DCkid

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    Definitely. Not sure if they're going to actually provide raw results or just kind of summarize the reponses and go into the next steps, but either way I can send out an update.
     
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    No that's not CRT is.

    It's A graduate-level course debating a theory.
     
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    That is a slanted view of what CRT actually is.

    Critical race theory itself is not being taught in K-12 schools (unless you’re talking about some very advanced students!). However, the research and scholarship that inform CRT have greatly shifted how many education experts view our school systems.

    This is coming from an advocate and they are distorting facts and giving their opinion.

    Who are these experts?

    Social theory should not be taught at the k-12 level.

    This gives her agenda away.

    Critical race theory emerged in legal circles, but it has spread to other areas of scholarship and policymaking, including education. For instance, in our nation’s schools, we still have sizable and stubborn gaps in academic proficiency between white children and their Black, Latinx and Native American peers. CRT has been helpful to education leaders as they seek to disentangle the systems in our communities and schools that oppress students of color, and hinder their ability to thrive.

    By starting from the well-established fact that academic proficiency is not related to the color of one’s skin, critical race theory pushes policymakers to look beyond the individual students and instead look at the system around them. Shifting our language from “achievement gap” to “education debt” or “opportunity gap” is one step on the journey. In what ways have our systems of education, health and housing blocked opportunity for Black and brown children? How do we eliminate those barriers?


    That is policy-level stuff and not something that should be in a curriculum.

    What class would it be taught in ?
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    As did the Japanese-Americans who served, including the most decorated military regiment in US history, 442nd Infantry Regiment (United States) - Wikipedia.
     
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    the Stupid one needs to stop his false equivocation
     
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    Unfortunately I don't think this issue can be won or even successfully countered by Democrats. The very nebulous nature of it makes it difficult to counter and just pointing out that CRT isn't actually taught in schools doesn't help when no one even those who study it can seem to define it easily.

    The most I think that can be done is to avoid less thought out statements like McAuliffe's. I think schools and others should say that parents have a role in their children's education and should be informed but that it's still the duty of teachers to teach a complete view of history even the parts that make people uncomfortable.
     
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    Each race is critical to its own race
     
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    They cooning in this video...how the hell you don't know Congress doesn't take up civil/criminal cases? Sigh, my people...



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    I think it's easy to counter. The idea that Republicans want to pretend racism doesn't exist and never existed is ridiculous, and that's how Dems need to frame the debate.
     
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    Reminds me a quote from one of cult classic movies

    "The Greatest Trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world He did not exist"
     
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    And Democrats have been saying that but the issue hasn't gone away or lessened.

    Because this issue is driven by perception and grievance the offense on it is always going to be easier than defense.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The Usual Suspects is a cult classic? Or was there another movie it was featured in?
     
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    Dems can go on the offensive as well. "Republicans are trying to retell history and pretend racism never existed" - its not an uphill battle because one side is on the offensive and the other is on the defense, it's an uphill battle because most people are white and they in fact do want to pretend America is not and has never been racist.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Right.. the same folks who want the Confederacy to be remembered because it's our history, don't want the struggles and racism against blacks to be remembered because it will make them feel bad.
     
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    A beautifully twisted irony
     
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    "They cling to guns or religion'"...and past glories.

    Not that I dismiss any of the three as negative, but they're campfires of power to huddle around from the lack of their own heat.
     
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    That's already happening and what driving things like this and why one side feels so much grievance. That is the reason behind the 1619 Project and why there is so much resistance too it.

    The problem is that the Republicans are much better on grievance. When those on one side say "We're trying to retell a forgotten history" the other side just says "You're just trying to run down America and say that all white people are racist." There certainly is a lot of truth to the first statement but t's very easy to spin that into the second.
     
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    The difference is that the left is attacking fundamental American cultural figures in the founding fathers. Fact is most Americans don't think they are racist and don't think America was founded as a racist country - which is what gives the right the ammunition.

    The left needs to focus on the current problem and instead of attacking American culture directly instead speaking to how the legacy of slavery still impacts disadvantage today. Things like the 1619 project end up being self-defeating and counter productive. Instead speak to how blacks were left in ghettos without the means to change their circumstances and are still there today even over 150 years of being "freed"

    That isn't already happening. The focus should be on how to solve a problem vs assigning blame. Right now the narrative is that Dems want to erase our history and rewrite it. They wouldn't be able to say that if it were for some of the things being pushed. Don't give them ammunition.

    Fight back smartly is what I am saying.
     
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