1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Why it needs to be Mobley...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Landry's Tooth, Jun 27, 2021.

  1. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    It never mattered because it was never an issue and he would never be asked to bang with anybody down low because nobody does that currently in today's NBA.

    Mobley would have been in the same position here playing with Wood and AS.
     
    D-rock likes this.
  2. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,432
    Likes Received:
    13,390
    They made it one more time. AMAZING!! With 4 more wins in the WCF. Mindblowing!!

    Harden has had more success in the playoffs... but if the conversation is around who is discussing this rationally we have:

    You = Lillard paired with Beal and LaVine
    Me = Lillard paired with Harden

    Which group do you think he is closer to?
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    22,530
    Likes Received:
    14,261
    Nope. It would matter if Mobley wasn't playing next to Allen as the Cavs front court is better defensively. Jarret Allen is a better rebounder and rim protector than Wood, Theis and AS. The Cavs play essentially 3 bigs with their starting unit, we don't.

    Offensively.... Garland is a better PG than KPJ. Mobley is looking good, but it's in part to the environment. Same with Barnes, who looks like he has the most upside.

    edited to help people read.
     
    #1903 dmoneybangbang, Oct 29, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2021
  4. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    Was that ever really a nugget?

    Or just a fan started rumour?
     
    D-rock likes this.
  5. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    So you are glossing over the fact that that Lillard has been swept multiple times in the 1st round against lower seeded teams and got swept in WCF.

    The fact that you actually think it is an argument is amazing.

    I have no idea why you think the bolded has anything to do with this discussion.

    The discussion is you trying to claim Lillard playoff success is anything close to Hardens.
     
    Nook likes this.
  6. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    So you think Mobley is looking good because of the environment.

    Gotcha, you do you I have no words for that.
     
    D-rock likes this.
  7. Genesis

    Genesis Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    675
    Honestly, you never know these days. Everyone got hot takes.
     
    D-rock and jiggyfly like this.
  8. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    22,530
    Likes Received:
    14,261
  9. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,482
    Likes Received:
    31,949
    The rookies who are doing well are only doing well due to everyone around them and Green looking like trash in 4 out of 5 games is everyone else's fault.

    That's pretty much the current narrative....and somehow they think people will buy it.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    22,530
    Likes Received:
    14,261
    Maybe you should actually read what I said instead of looking foolish?
     
  11. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,432
    Likes Received:
    13,390
    Uh you literally paired Lillard with Beal and LaVine and were like "where do star guards take you?!?!" lol
     
  12. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    If you were making a case that Green was a Kobe or MJ level prospect nobody should take you serious no actual scout was making those comparisons.

    That argument was only being made by Green fanboys.

    We should hope that Green turns out to be Lavine.

    Are you actually saying Randle is better than Lavine?
     
  13. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    I still stand by the question.

    What's your point and let's not forget you think Lillard and Harden's playoff success are comparable.

    Let's talk about that.
     
  14. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    I am not the one looking foolish.

    What do you think I missed?
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    22,530
    Likes Received:
    14,261
    I went back and bolded it for you champ......

    It would be naive and ignorant to think the team you are drafted to isn't partially responsible for your success... or failures.
     
  16. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,432
    Likes Received:
    13,390
    I didn't say they were comparable. I'm not sure why you're saying I'm saying they were.

    I said pretty clearly that they got "almost" as far as the Rockets which is as factually correct as the earth is round.

    What I didn't say, but have since alluded to, is that Lillards success is in a different ballpark than Beal's or LaVine's, who you grouped him with.
     
    dmoneybangbang likes this.
  17. NewAge

    NewAge Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,930
    Likes Received:
    3,139
    Randle is also a late boomer, with quite a few ? marks during his development. But I’d put him slightly ahead of LaVine because of taking a pretty crappy team to playoffs and home court advantage, and because of his All-NBA selection. LaVine still has that stigma of a guy looking great on a non-playoff team.
     
    DeBeards and steddinotayto like this.
  18. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
  19. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,116
    Likes Received:
    20,870
    I give Julius a lot of credit. He worked on that 3 point shot and it just unleashed a whole new Randle. I hope he continues to succeed and will take over in the playoffs this year. Last year was a lot of hot potato action on who should get the ball in critical times during the postseason.
     
    DeBeards likes this.
  20. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    You said Lillard's playoff success is almost on par with Hardens, so making a WCF and getting swept should compare to what harden accomplished in the playoffs?

    You are trying to backtrack now from your original post, I don't blame you.

    I grouped them in because they have not been actually real contenders so you cannot say having a great 2 guard is more important than a great big man, which seems yo be the argument against Mobley.
     

Share This Page