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General and Secretary of State Colin Powell Dead at 84

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Was going to post this in Hangout but might be better here.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/18/politics/colin-powell-dies/index.html

    Colin Powell, military leader and first Black US secretary of state, dies after complications from Covid-19

    Colin Powell, the first Black US secretary of state whose leadership in several Republican administrations helped shape American foreign policy in the last years of the 20th century and the early years of the 21st, has died from complications from Covid-19, his family said on Facebook. He was 84.

    "General Colin L. Powell, former U.S. Secretary of State and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, passed away this morning due to complications from Covid 19," the Powell family wrote on Facebook.
    "We have lost a remarkable and loving husband, father, grandfather and a great American," they said, noting he was fully vaccinated.
    Powell was a distinguished and trailblazing professional soldier whose career took him from combat duty in Vietnam to becoming the first Black national security adviser during the end of Ronald Reagan's presidency and the youngest and first African American chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President George H.W. Bush. His national popularity soared in the aftermath of the US-led coalition victory during the Gulf War, and for a time in the mid-90s, he was considered a leading contender to become the first Black President of the United States. But his reputation would be forever stained when, as George W. Bush's first secretary of state, he pushed faulty intelligence before the United Nations to advocate for the Iraq War, which he would later call a "blot" on his record.

    Though he never mounted a White House bid, when Powell was sworn in as Bush's secretary of state in 2001, he became the highest-ranking Black public official to date in the country, standing fourth in the presidential line of succession.
    "I think it shows to the world what is possible in this country," Powell said of his history-making nomination during his Senate confirmation hearing. "It shows to the world that: Follow our model, and over a period of time from our beginning, if you believe in the values that espouse, you can see things as miraculous as me sitting before you to receive your approval."

    Later in his public life, he would grow disillusioned with the Republican Party's rightward lurch and would use his political capital to help elect Democrats to the White House, most notably Barack Obama, the first Black president whom Powell endorsed in the final weeks of the 2008 campaign.
    The announcement was seen as a significant boost for Obama's candidacy due to Powell's widespread popular appeal and stature as one of the most prominent and successful Black Americans in public life.
    Powell is survived by his wife, Alma Vivian (Johnson) Powell, whom he married in 1962, as well as three children.

    Professional soldier
    Colin Luther Powell was born April 5, 1937, in Harlem, New York, to Jamaican immigrants. After growing up in the South Bronx, Powell attended school at the City College of New York, where he participated in ROTC, leading the precision drill team and attaining the top rank offered by the corps, cadet colonel.
    "I liked the structure and the discipline of the military," Powell said, according to a CNN profile of him in the early 2000s. "I felt somewhat distinctive wearing a uniform. I hadn't been distinctive in much else."
    He entered the US Army after graduating in 1958, and later served two tours in South Vietnam during the 1960s, where he was wounded twice, including during a helicopter crash in which he rescued two soldiers. He stayed in the Army after returning home, attending the National War College and rising in leadership. He was promoted to brigadier general in 1979, appointed as Reagan's final national security adviser in 1987 and was tapped by the elder Bush in 1989 to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    Powell's tenure in the elder Bush's administration was marked by his involvement in some of the most notable American military actions of the late 20th century, including the 1989 Panama operation, the 1991 Gulf War and the US humanitarian intervention in Somalia, though he retired from the Army days before the disastrous Battle of Mogadishu.

    Although Powell was initially reluctant to commit US troops when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, he became one of the administration's most trusted spokesmen when the assault on Saddam Hussein's army finally came.

    "First we're going to cut it off. Then we're going to kill it," Powell famously said at a news conference at the time, referring to the Iraqi army.

    Following the assault, Powell became something of a national hero, enjoying a 71% favorability rating in the first few year years after the war. His efforts during the war also earned him two prominent awards: a Congressional Gold Medal in March 1991 "in recognition of his exemplary performance in planning and coordinating" the US response to Iraq's invasion, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.
    As the elder Bush presented Powell with the award at a White House ceremony in 1991, he said the general's "deep compassion for every one of the thousands of men and women under (his) command will always be remembered."

    During Powell's time in the military, which lasted until 1993, he also received a number of other notable awards, including the Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts. He received his fourth star in 1989, becoming the second African American to rise to that rank.
    In addition to the military awards, Powell also received the President's Citizens Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal, as well as a second Presidential Medal of Freedom, awarded with distinction, from President Bill Clinton.
    Top diplomat during turbulent time

    With a prominent national profile, Powell was floated as a potential presidential candidate in the 1996 election. But in a highly anticipated decision, he declined to participate in the race, citing a lack of "passion" for electoral politics.

    "Such a life requires a calling that I do not yet hear," he told reporters in 1995. "And for me to pretend otherwise would not be honest to myself, it would not be honest to the American people."
    Powell was again encouraged to run in the 2000 presidential election, but rebuffed calls for him to mount a bid. He instead endorsed George W. Bush, delivering a speech at the Republican National Convention in which he argued that the then-governor of Texas would "help bridge our racial divides."
    He was Bush's first Cabinet selection when he was announced as the 43rd President's nomination for secretary of state, and with his expertise in foreign policy and widespread popularity, he was unanimously confirmed by the Senate.

    He shared Bush's reluctance to project military strength across the globe, a view that was quickly displaced by the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. As Bush's top diplomat, he was tasked with building international support for the War on Terror, including the Afghanistan War, but it was his involvement in the administration's push for intervention in Iraq, over the concerns of many of America's longtime allies, for which his tenure at State would become best known.
    In February 2003, Powell delivered a speech before the United Nations in which he presented evidence that the US intelligence community said proved Iraq had misled inspectors and hid weapons of mass destruction.

    "There can be no doubt," Powell warned, "that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more."

    Inspectors, however, later found no such weaponry in Iraq, and two years after Powell's UN speech, a government report said the intelligence community was "dead wrong" in its assessments of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities before the US invasion.
    But the damage was already done -- to both Iraq, which the US went to war with just six weeks after Powell's speech, and to the reputation of the once highly popular statesman, who was reportedly told by then-Vice President Dick Cheney before the UN speech: "You've got high poll ratings; you can afford to lose a few points."
     
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    Edit: Highlighting Powell on the legacy of his speech at the UN.
    cont.

    Powell, who left the State Department in early 2005 after submitting his resignation to Bush the previous year, later called his UN speech a "blot" that will forever be on his record.
    "I regret it now because the information was wrong -- of course I do," he told CNN's Larry King in 2010. "But I will always be seen as the one who made the case before the international community."
    "I swayed public opinion, there's no question about it," he added, referring to how influential his speech was on public support for the invasion.



    In his 2012 memoir, "It Worked for Me," Powell again acknowledged the speech, writing that his account of it in the book would likely be the last he publicly made.
    "I am mad mostly at myself for not having smelled the problem. My instincts failed me," he wrote, referring to the report he used that contained faulty evidence of supposed Iraqi WMDs. "It was by no means my first, but it was one of my most momentous failures, the one with the widest-ranging impact."
    "The event will earn a prominent paragraph in my obituary," Powell wrote.
    Shifting politics



    After leaving the Bush administration, Powell returned to private life. He joined the renowned venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins in 2005, where he worked as a strategic adviser until his death. For a time, he gave speeches at "Get Motivated!" business seminars, and he authored the 2012 memoir.
    Though the large majority of Powell's time as a public servant was spent in Republican administrations, the later years of his life saw him supporting Democratic presidential candidates and harshly criticizing top Republican leaders.



    By 2008, the longtime Republican's coveted presidential endorsement went to another party when he announced his support for Obama's White House bid. At the time, he touted Obama's "ability to inspire" and the "inclusive nature of his campaign," while criticizing attacks on the Illinois senator by Republican presidential nominee John McCain's campaign as "inappropriate." He was later named an honorary co-chair of Obama's inauguration and endorsed him again in 2012.



    Powell went on to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 over Donald Trump, whom he had strongly condemned as a "national disgrace and an international pariah."



    In an extraordinary move that year, three presidential electors in Washington state cast votes for Powell rather than Clinton, resulting in state fines that were later upheld by the Supreme Court.
    He again snubbed Trump in 2020 during the President's second campaign, announcing his support for Joe Biden in June of that year while blasting Trump's presidency.



    "We have a Constitution. And we have to follow that Constitution. And the President has drifted away from it," he told CNN, adding that he "certainly cannot in any way support President Trump this year." The retired general later delivered an address in support of Biden during the Democratic National Convention.
    And after Trump incited a deadly insurrection at the US Capitol in early January 2021, Powell told CNN that he no longer considered himself a Republican, with the longtime grandee of the GOP saying he was now simply watching events unfold in a country he long served.



    "I can no longer call myself a fellow Republican. I'm not a fellow of anything right now," he told CNN's Fareed Zakaria on "GPS." "I'm just a citizen who has voted Republican, voted Democrat throughout my entire career. And right now, I'm just watching my country and not concerned with parties."
     
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  3. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    RIP old bean. 84 is a pretty good age for a man of his generation in a high-pressure job.
     
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    Always thought he was great at navigating political turmoil around him and would've been a good, no nonsense candidate for a presidential run.

    RIP.
     
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    I didn’t realize he was this old or that he had Parkinson’s disease and cancer.

    Like with all public servants, he made mistakes, but he had good moments too.

     
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    RIP Mr. Powell.


    Antivaxxers are going to ham with this one. Look! the vaccines don't work.
     
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    Very mixed legacy. The Iraq War will be the biggest stain to his legacy but he also is a relic of the past in terms of being as bipartisan as possible.
     
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    RIP to a great man.

    DD
     
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    One of the best men to ever serve in Washington.

    RIP, sir.
     
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    He was fully vaccinated. But he was also 84 years old. RIP.
     
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    His full interview from that really shows the kind of man he was. He was very measured and thoughtful in his endorsement of Obama but also in his assessment of John McCain.


    Both Powell and McCain came to be vilified by the current GOP and it won't surprise me to hear some "good riddance" comments from some Republicans.
     
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    The Trump fandom has dumped these guys years ago into the "Rino" bin. They might as well be Marxists.
     
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    I admired Colin Powell but agree his legacy was stained by his part in pushing the invasion of Iraq. That was something he later regretted and felt used by the GW Bush Admin to sell the war.

    In terms of being a relic perhaps for politicians but Powell never served in elected office and was never truly beholden to any party. I think the attitude that Powell had of seeking to overcome partisan divisions continues and is very evident in military leaders such as Generals Milley, Mattis, and Adm. McRaven.
     
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    Unforgivable.



    Rot in hell, lying war criminal, just next to Rumsfeld. Waiting for the big one to follow.
     
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    He underplayed his hand in the late '90s when sitting Presidents were being impeached and third party candidates were winning governorships, then latched on the Bush when he felt left out and abandoned his own instincts to push the stupidest war in American history. He could have been George Marshall, alternate timeline Bobby Kennedy and Barack Obama combined, rather than Blacknamara.
     
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    And black which is higher risk also
     
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    A man I admired, despite strongly disagreeing with him about the Second Gulf War. I knew immediately that it was an incredible mistake and said so here. A mistake I blamed on Bush and Cheney far more than Colin Powell. My guess is that Powell disagreed with the decision privately, but like a "good general," publicly, very publicly, supported the Commander in Chief.

    Resigning, which is what he should have done, in my opinion, rather than support a terrible mistake by President Bush, was something Powell was unwilling to do. It is popular to blame Cheney for the catastrophic invasion of Iraq, but Cheney wasn't president. Bush made the ultimate, tragic call. Powell was a policy weapon who allowed himself to be used, in my opinion.

    So much occurred because of that war and so much is still occurring. The consequences continue to reverberate not only in the Middle East, but literally around the world. We are a significantly weaker nation because of it, both internally and as the dominate power in the world after the fall of the Soviet Union, a position we no longer hold.

    Much of the blame for that falls on the shoulders of George W. Bush and his insane war to overthrow Saddam. For those who might think it doesn't matter, ask Xi and Putin, as well as lessor authoritarian leaders, like Erdogan of Turkey, whether it matters. They will likely deny that it does. Lying is like breathing to them.
     
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    Good Man
    Good Soldier

    Fell on the sword for some unpopular and unethical wars
    but
    overall I liked him

    Rocket River
     
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