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Jalen Green - what are your expectations for this year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

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    I am talking impact on the game, not skills, and Green was supposed to be as athletic as Ja and I have yet to see it.

    This has nothing to do with other particular skill sets I am talking about the impact on the game and athleticsm.

    Yeah, the talk was Kobe which is even worse.
     
  2. Rockets4Life13

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    Even then, Edwards was pretty pretty bad for the first half of the season efficiency wise. He really picked it up towards the end.

    Doncic is a rare type of player and should never be the type of player to expect, even from the #2 pick
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    Nothing in those highlights was otherwordly.

    What do you consider otherwordly?

    Edwards was otherwordly.
     
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  4. NewAge

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    yeah, OK, man… This is just going in circles.
    For some people you know right away… Yeah, but they are special!
    So this kid is not special? No, but maybe, we don’t know yet.
    So when we will know? We’ll know when we know…

    I mean how is this a high-level discussion?
     
  5. NewAge

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    that’s how they looked to me, plus the Kobe/MJ buzz… But if you say they were not, maybe it’s White KD bandwagon time…
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    I don't understand what this has to do with what I posted?

    I have not judged what his mentality is yet just saying we do not know if it will be negative or positive.

    You can't judge it in pre season either it will show under adversity when you have a back to back and have lost 5 straight, will he still play team ball or just try and get his?

    That's what I am talking about. Nobody knows yet people keep talking about his "mentality" like they have known him his entire life.
     
  7. jiggyfly

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    No he does not have the overall skill level to be that guy, He is also too small to be that guy IMO.

    I have no idea why he has to be that guy for you to still have interest, this white KD will probably not be that guy either.
     
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  8. jiggyfly

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    How is that obvious?

    Even if he does have it how do you know he keeps it while losing and being a multimillionaire?

    Who is labeling him a bust?
     
  9. NewAge

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    OK, I think I got the jist…
     
  10. NewAge

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    Yeah, that’s been a concern, too. I’m getting that Chandler Parson ditzy Hollywood vibe… CP was quite competent until he got paid and then lost interest in basketball…
     
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  11. jiggyfly

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    Not gonna lie he is a bit too much look at me but I am not gonna hold that against him, it's what kids are these days.
     
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    It's tough to overlook too because it's not like he's a dominant player more like a flashy player. He's young we will she what he progresses to.
     
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    I am also talking impact, Ja as the point guard impacts the game in a different way than a traditional, offensive shooting guard.

    What does “athleticism” mean? Because Green is athletic, he should also be able to run point like Ja?

    The talk about Kobe was just a young confident kid who has been a top prospect in high school.
     
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    Lol…..

    Feminine and Ditzy Hollywood.
     
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    He’s still thinking too much but I think he’ll settle down a few weeks in. I expect him to be really good
     
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    1st and 2nd quarter were a little disheartening, but the 10 points in the 3rd quarter gave me renewed hope. He needs to be aggressive. Rather see him mess up trying to do too much than standing around not doing anything and being indecisive when he does get the ball. There were some nice rim attacks and passes in the first half where he wasn’t credited with assists that were promising. He made at least 3 really good passes yesterday that I didn’t think he was capable of just yet.



     
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    Umm, a lot? You said you didn't understand my thinking on that and I explained my thinking on that, that's all.

    I don't think it's a double-edged sword at all, I think it would be a mistake to compare his mentality at all to T-will as T-will was lazy on the court, so his bravado

    Clearly you've decided to look at it a different way and that's fine.

    I just don't understand why it's fair for you to judge what you've seen and no one else.
     
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  18. jiggyfly

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    My worry is I know too many guys with that type of mentality and when adversity hits and they are not the flavor of the month they don't react well.

    Hopefully, he is mentally strong and actually cares about winning and getting better.

    I will say he does not seem to be a selfish player so that's a huge plus.
     
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  19. vator

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    3rd quarter he showed some of why he could be a tremendous scorer. Watched the whole game last night, but watching these highlights again today make me think they need to just turn him loose and live with the results. There will be a lot of mistakes, but he needs the “Green light” to make them. That’s where good coaching comes in.

     
  20. jiggyfly

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    Impact is impact this is not about how they impact a game and Ja does not impact the game like a true pg.

    I have no idea what bolded has to do with anything because nobody is saying Green needs to run the point, Everybody was claiming Grenn was some uber athlete and that's why he was a cut above, they even said he was a better athlete than Edwards. Not saying he needs to but that was supposed to be one of his strengths.

    The Kobe comparisons were made by a lot of posters leading up to the draft that's what I am talking about.
     

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