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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Possum

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    Con Murphy (@ConMurphyCarlow) Tweeted:
    County Waterford has the highest adult vaccination rates in Ireland at 99%+. Followed by County Carlow in Second place at 98%+
    County Waterford also has the highest Covid incidence rates in Ireland, followed by County Carlow in second place.
    What is going on? https://t.co/wuQaaOL7AS




    Waterford, once the crown jewel of Ireland’s Vaccination program, now has the highest rate of infection in the country. For the first time since March, the number of patients in hospital with Covid in Ireland is over 400. This in a country where 92% of adults have been Vaccinated against the CCP Virus.



    It’s worse for County Waterford where almost every single person over the age of 18 has been double jabbed and yet case numbers are surging with more than 700 new cases documented in the last 2 weeks.



    The number of vaccinated patients in ICU now is almost as high as the entire number of Covid patients in ICU a year ago. HSE chief clinical officer Dr Colm Henry admitted the figures were “higher than we would like” but added they would be even higher but for the impact of vaccination.
     
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    What percentage of the people counted in that incidence rate are unvaccinated school children?

    What percentage of the hospitalized are vaccinated versus unvaccinated? And of those who are vaccinated, what are their ages and date of vaccination?

    A lot of factors here to sift through to try to explain what is going on, if we are really serious about answering that question.
     
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  3. B-Bob

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    Nope. Pretty sure we just want to find one anomalous county on the planet, share a tweet and return to our preconceived notions. But thanks for suggesting the hard way.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    What happened (or perhaps who happened) to create this change?

     
  5. cheke64

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    we had an rural older couplei n their 60's with oxygen levels at 72, they just wanted regeneron and be sent home. They're son within 20 minutes of being there handed them the power of attorney paperwork. All this is preventable. You guys are being misled by Abbott
     
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    Texas appears to be paying a secretive Republican political operative $120,000 annually to work behind the scenes on redistricting
    Adam Foltz, now on the Texas payroll, played a key role in Wisconsin's redistricting last decade. A federal court threw out some of the maps and called the effort Foltz was involved in "an all but shameful attempt to hide the redistricting process from public scrutiny."

    https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/29/texas-redistricting-adam-foltz/
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    ... and this is why private businesses should be able to enforce health mandates...

     
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    According to a Dr working in Waterford..

    "The risk now attaching to Covid-19 is dramatically less than it was nine months ago, before mass vaccination, and appears to approximate to that of flu in winter."

    Despite the increase in cases, Dr McNamara said that, thanks to vaccination, the vast majority of infection were mild and it was only in “rare circumstances” that serious illness resulted.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/hea...d-19-cases-in-waterford-says-doctor-1.4699531


    Also..from the article you posted

    HSE chief clinical officer Dr Colm Henry admitted the figures were “higher than we would like” but added they would be even higher but for the impact of vaccination.
     
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  10. CCorn

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    I bet Mr. Possum has been following Con Murphy for years on tweeter.
     
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    These politicians need to start wearing their sponsors like badges the way nascar drivers do
     
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  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You don't expect @Possum to actually read and comprehend articles he posts, do you?
     
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  13. Rashmon

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    It's possible he is suffering from Long COVID effects that severely damage his capacity to properly evaluate information and trigger bouts of magical thinking.
     
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  14. Possum

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    Nope ALL information should be scrutinized. Whether it supports your narrative or not. Anyone that blindly follows ANY source deserves what they get.
     
  15. Possum

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    and he’s basing his OPINION on what exactly?
     
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    ^ thsi dude doesn’t understand the difference between data driven statistics and opinion.


    It’s scary he made it to adulthood. Here are the ppl leading anti-vax…explains a lot
     
  17. DFWRocket

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    The first Doctor quoted is actually a Dr working in the county you posted about - he's on the frontlines there.

    The 2nd Doctor quoted is actually from the article YOU posted.
    This is the 2nd time in recent posts that you've disagreed with information that came from your post/source.
     
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    Well I connected the dots and all I see are boobies
     
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  19. Amiga

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    90% of Ireland's ELIGIBLE population are vaccinated with at least one dose (88% with both jabs so essentially the same). 3.5M of 5M are vaccinated or ~70% of the population is vaccinated. 30% not vaccinated is not going to stop Delta. Sharp spikes aren't out of the norm, especially if a region hasn't been "spiked" before (meaning fewer people with natural immunity).

    Minister Donnelly said the unvaccinated make up 1/3 of all the hospital admissions and 2/3 of ICU admissions. Given that kids are very unlikely to have a severe illness and the vax rate, you can roughly translate this unvax has a 20x higher chance of being admitted to the ICU vs vax. Given the med age in Ireland is 37, that's about in the ballpark compared to data from US and Canada.

    IOW, nothing that strange.

    Vaccinations | Ireland's COVID19 Data Hub (arcgis.com)
    Covid Ireland: Two counties singled out after 'serious increase' in cases (msn.com)
    Ireland Population 2021 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs) (worldpopulationreview.com)
     
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  20. Possum

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    Really what data did the dr reference when he
    Made those statements?
     

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