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Why it needs to be Mobley...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Landry's Tooth, Jun 27, 2021.

  1. RasaqBoi

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    C'mon bro. Greene dropped a FORTY piece in Summer League

     
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    "Hey Bud, let's party" - Bullard at any point of the game when Chase scored one of his 4 buckets. Not poking fun at chase. In today's nba , 9 points and 4 rebounds in 20 minutes is worth like 14 million bucks.
     
  4. RasaqBoi

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    I raise you Nick Johnson and Marty Leunen highlights. This is sad lol

     
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    As the great philosopher Jonathan "Johnny" Tran once said, "Too Soon Junior". Alan Williams' 20/20 game:

     
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  6. Plowman

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    I want Jalen to rock, but Evan is going to be what we thought. He'll put on muscle/weight.....Look at him move out there...the skills at his size. He's freaking 19. And, it takes big men longer. I'm sure they both will be great, but would still rather have Mobley. Y'all can talk up the next crop of big men in the next draft, but this is the guy.
     
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    ....better than summer league games - this is progress!
     
  8. glimmertwins

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    Mobley looks fine - has size you can't teach, and seems to be a very fundamentally sound & smart player - I think his floor is kind of a Clint Capela type with 3pt range who can occasionally put it on the floor in a closeout. That's a pretty good player and probably a top 5 centers in the league as a floor. Can't argue with that. The real question is what is his ceiling because you gotta be a transcendent center like a Jokic or Embid to be a franchise player as a big and we were reloading for a franchise player and I haven't seen much from Mobley that says - we can run an offense around him except in very specific matchups.

    Green is no doubt more raw skills wise than Mobley at this stage, but Green also has shown already that he can be a "it doesn't matter how good your defense is, I can score anyway" type of guy so while the floor for Green isn't as high as Mobley, his ceiling is potentially higher which is the thing you look for in a franchise guy. Green already has a killer first step and a killer stepback counter and while he needs to work on making his shot mechanics more consistent(that's the streakiness we have seen so far), he is already well above average at creating space for himself against the best athletes in the world - and that's something people spend a career trying to get to.
     
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    I agree with the Duncan comps - Mobley seems like he makes the right play a lot and has his body in the right place to make those plays - it's all fundamentals combined with elite size. That said, Duncan was an offensive threat the first day he entered the league and on any other team probably would have been a 25-27ppg scorer at his peak. I don't see anywhere near that same amount of polish in Mobley. Not suggesting he couldn't average 20ppg, but it's going to take him a while to get there and likely his points will be more weighted towards the clean the board/put it back type of points or system points which are valuable, but that's not the type of player who gets buckets in tight games to close out an opponent - that superstar/franchise guy time..
     
  10. NewAge

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    These are good points! Problem for Jalen for now is that he’s close to zero off-ball and on D. So if he’s this transcendent offensive player, I want to see two things:
    1. Get him in a high usage lineup, without KPJ and Wood. Like Iverson or post-KD Westbrook.
    2. Surround him with our most physical players.
    Jalen/Nwaba/Tate/Theis/Garuba should be our second unit. Exum for Nwaba works, too.
     
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    The NBA is hell on 7 footers. Pure hell. After everything with YM, I'm OK with never building around a big man ever again. As for Mobley, no one is surprised he has skill. Everyone knew that. Green is more fun to watch, though.
     
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    Just remember if we drafted Mobley we wouldn’t of ended up with AS
     
  13. Roc Paint

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    It’s too bad we didn’t have the second and third pick this past year
     
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    watch Jalen Green play tonight and you will change your mind.
     
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    Lol at comparing this guy to Tim Duncan. If that's the case then Green is Michael Jordan
     
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    yeah, tell me about it! I started a thread contemplating a Wood for #3+Okoro trade… That would have been the reincarnation of the Clyde + #2 for Ralph trade in 1984.
    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/can-it-happen-this-time.311989/
     
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    and its not even close!
     
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    these are fine highlights but actually the most impressive thing in the clip for me was cavs as a team...ball movement, smart passing and team play, and every player looking confident and competent
     
  20. Sledge187

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    Mobley looks like a Mo Taylor clone. Solid pick and a nice piece. Might average 14/6 by his peak.
     
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