BTW, the actual complaint people have of you Jackie is that you tell them how to post. That post you are referring to was actually about the debate going on in the thread. I didn't tell anyone how to post. So not only are you telling me what I'm thinking, which is par for the course for you, you're not making sense.
I didn't try to do that with SpaceGhost, I misunderstood what he tried to say. See when you misunderstand someone, you continuously argue with them and tell them you actually knew what they meant. I never argued with SpaceGhost once he told me what he meant, I just told him why I misunderstood the post.
Not quite. There was a genuine misunderstanding between pgabriel and Space Ghost, and pgabriel pointed out why the misunderstanding occured.
Nice way to take that sentence out of context. I was referring to the post you made reference to from the other forum. So you took a sentence out of context, and you used the word EXPOSED. Maybe you should ask Clutch to change your userid so you can be just like your idol.
robbie380, it's not a conspiracy...it's a fact...a conspiracy would mean that it's a hidden condition. It's not. If you thought like a CEO a company, you'd understand these needs... You also misunderstood roxbox's post. Basically he's saying that lower economic classes are a byproduct of capitalism, which is what 2/3 of the world happens to live in. We don't live under a communistic government (a utopian dream where everyone is monetarily "equal"). We live under a capitalistic government. That means a small group of millionaires (billionaires) at the top, and large middle class and a small lower class (it's unavoidable). So, it's not a question of do "we" need poor people. It's a question of do "busniesss need poor wage earners?" Yes...they do. That's why many corporations are moving those jobs overseas (profit driven/competition of the bottom line). Thus, poor people will result from this. This can't be prevented. Not in a capitalistic economy. It's up to those individuals perseverance whether or not they will have a chance to get out of their poverty. Some will make it. Some wont. Thus, there will always be poor. And those poor will fill jobs that are low wage. This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some type of education (or support) for those less fortunate to get out of those conditions....But that's another issue... All I'm pointing out is a condition of capitalism. So, *YOU* might not "need the poor" but corporations do. "Need" is a subjective word here. The poor "need" the jobs. And the corporations "need" those jobs filled. Watcha gonna do?
I think that was the whole point of the thread. I was showing how being poor is a matter of perspective, and perspective is a state of mind. People are poor or rich depending on who they choose to compare themselves to. Our poor families that have jobs and food and homes may consider themselves poor when measured against white collar workers, but if they chose to compare their living conditions to the homeless, they are well-off. The homeless can compare themselves to the blue-collar workers who are living below the "poverty line" and feel they are poor, or they can compare themselves to the Haitians and feel maybe they aren't in so bad a situation. That is why I posted that in this thread.
StupidMoniker, I understand your point...But, perspective of ones condition are for those that choose to do so (like the comments made by Secretary Alphonso Jackson). But try telling that to someone that's trying to find a job, or feed their family, or pay the rent. They could careless about Haitians or Mexicans in Puerto Vallarta (70 miles outside the resorts) living in tents with water and beans for din-din... For you and I....well, it's very hard to stomach when we travel to poor foreign places. It really makes one thankful of what one has. But the "poor" in *this* country don't care about the poorer in other countries. They have other things to worry about. Like where their next paycheck will come from. Sure, hunger might be more pressing for those Haitians. But, like you said. It's all about perspective and ones needs at the time. My 16 year old niece complained that she broke her nail (Oh, darn!). I wonder if telling her that a Haitian child lost his leg yesterday changed her perspective? She rolled her eyes. At some point in the solcial class rise, people here that are not poor may get spoiled. At least until they see the world for themselves.
A Communist state lead by a dictator...it has a domestic economy (and trade), but it's still centrally controlled by Castro.
9-11 changed everything. Now go back to the grill and make me another hamburger. If you put tomatoes on it, I'm calling the Office of Homeland Security and having your ass deported back to Uzbekiafghanischwagistan.
You're right, your post was about perspective. But poor people here just don't compare themselves to the rest of the world. They compare themselves to what they see everyday.
