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LeBron James: I got the Vaccine but I won’t urge others to do same

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Sep 28, 2021.

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Who controls the nba

  1. LeBron

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  2. Silver

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  3. Fauci

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  4. Ben Simmons

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  5. Kardasians

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  6. ESPN

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  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    it's also impossible to enforce because there are plenty of fake vaccination cards out there
    and the suspect or lack of enforcement by people making $15 hour
     
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    @Os Trigonum

    LeBron should address this

    he can help save his friend Foghorn Leghorn from the Toon Squad
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Most do
    They just choose not too acknowledge it

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    Why is it his responsibility again?

    Rocket River
     
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    What?

    I was referencing the person on the receiving end of police brutality/racism.
     
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    he controls the NBA.

    if the NBA required a vaccine mandate, it goes through LeBron.
    You know he controls a large portion of the NBA through his 'Agent' Rich Paul.
    @J.R.
    @Os Trigonum @Reeko
     
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    They are exempt from federal mandate because it's an independent agency of the executive branch. Instead, they will be treated like a large private company and will need to be vaccinated or get tested weekly.
     
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    Is that the same mandate for public workers?

    I get different mechanism but same end result right
     
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    Amiga I get vaunted sacred revelations from social media
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    I should have been clearer.

    There is the EO that mandate vaccination for federal executive branch employees.

    There is the EO that mandate vaccination (or weekly testing) for large private companies through OSHA (USPS fall under this one).
     
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    Everyone else is LePawns
     
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    LeBron speaks out against policies and actions that harm others (racism, police brutality). Not speaking for vaccination is harming self and others.

    He justifies this by saying it's a personal choice of their bodies and well-being. I think he fails to recognize or ignore that it's NOT just for their bodies and well-being.

    I see a lack of consistency or lack knowledge from him.
     
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    It is a personal choice though, unlike being wrongly brutalized by police. I see that as a key distinction, your rebuttal is trying to broaden the scope of the things he's socially/politically commented on into "things that harm others" and then it seems like your personal opinion is that the vaccine shouldn't be a personal choice perhaps? From that angle, you're creating an inconsistency.

    I see the distinction and it doesn't come off as inconsistent to me, personally. I'm not a Bron defender or whatever, his take on Taiwan was weak, but people trying to say "HA so you should STFU about police brutality" seem silly to me.
     
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    I think I understand your point. I'm coming from this at a different angle.

    My framing is ultimately what Lebron does for black.

    I think Lebron, understandably, speak up against racism and police brutality as blacks face those two challenges. COVID is a huge challenge to black as well - they die more of it than any other race and a large % of them have not been vaccinated. Personal choice is fine and all, but that personal choice is also causing other blacks in the community and household to be at risk. As a leader, he probably has much more power to influence young black teens and adult to be vaccinated than influencing changes for combating racism and police brutality. My cristism of inconsistency is about what Lebron can do for black.

    ps. I think it should be a personal choice but that there are consequences to that choice - including being fired.
     
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    Republicans buy sneakers, too.
     
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    Either the people in the comments are lying or there are many people with pretty bad reactions to these vaccines.
     
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    You should see the YouTube comment section under Fauci videos, tons of data.
     
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    If the vaccine choice was not moderna, Pfizer and Johnson Johnson
    And was Russia’s Sputnik or China’s vaccine
    Would you take it ??
     
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    I still think Lebron does a lot of good things things off the court and can be impactful. Thats why he gets a clear F on this one, along with his China stance.
     
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    F for Space Ham I mean Jam 2
     
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