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The state of the republican party

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  1. edwardc

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    I'm one of the rare members here who calls himself a Democrat. Based on your post, and that this sort of thing has happened time and time again, one would think that my party, the Democratic Party, would have learned it's lesson. The Democratic members of Congress, even when it helps the Republican Party, doing the right thing for the good of the nation, versus the Republican members of Congress doing the opposite, the sole reason being to block something or anything the Democratic members of that body are attempting to do. Yes, there is a lesson there.

    Whether it is preventing the confirmation of a Democratic nominee to the Supreme Court long before the end of the President's term of office, or even giving that nomination a hearing, or not voting to raise the debt ceiling in order to prevent the United States, our country, from doing something that has never occurred in it's history, defaulting on it's debt, this Republican Party is more interested in petty political expediency. It bears little resemblance to the political party of that name that many of us were familiar with for decades.

    The Republican Party in Congress is doing something even worse that not allowing a vote on a president's nomination to the Supreme Court. It is obstructing the other party from doing the time honored duty of Congress to maintain the good faith and credit of the United States. Calling the actions of this Republican Party outrageous and unprecedented is an enormous understatement.
     
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    The back story...

    Trump donor: Corey Lewandowski made unwanted sexual advances

    The longtime Trump aide harassed her at a charity event, a major Republican Party contributor alleges.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/29/corey-lewandowski-sexual-advances-allegations-514650

    The even weirder back story...

    Gov. Kristi Noem denies allegation of affair with Corey Lewandowski: 'Total garbage'
    Noem called the report 'a disgusting lie'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/go...f-affair-with-corey-lewandowski-total-garbage

    LOL... did she insert herself in this story to deflect from her other scandal?
     
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  6. NewRoxFan

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    Guy running for the senate in Ohio...

     
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    A leaked document has revealed the membership list of the secretive Council for National Policy (CNP), showing how it provides opportunities for elite Republicans, wealthy entrepreneurs, media proprietors and pillars of the US conservative movement to rub shoulders with anti-abortion and anti-Islamic extremists.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which monitors rightwing hate groups, describes the CNP as “a shadowy and intensely secretive group [which] has operated behind the scenes” in its efforts to “build the conservative movement”.

    The leaked membership list dates from September last year, and reveals the 40-year-old CNP put influential Trump administration figures alongside leaders of organizations that have been categorized as hate groups.

    The document – which reveals email addresses and phone numbers for most members – shows that the CNP includes members of SPLC-listed hate groups.

    They include leaders of organizations listed as anti-Muslim hate groups, including:

    Frank Gaffney, founder and executive chairman of the Center for Security Policy (CSP)
    Brigitte Gabriel, founder and chairman of Act For America (AFA)

    They also include several founders or leaders of groups listed anti-LGBTQ+ hate groups, such as:

    Michael P Farris, president and CEO of the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF)
    Brad Dacus, founder and president of the Pacific Justice Institute
    Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council
    Matthew Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel
    Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association

    Also, there are members of organizations listed as anti-immigrant hate groups, including James and Amapola Hansberger, co-founders of Legal Immigrants For America (Lifa).

    Additionally, the list includes members of groups that have been accused of extremist positions on abortion. They include Margaret H Hartshorn, chair of the board of Heartbeat International, which has reportedly spread misinformation worldwide to pregnant women.

    Several high-profile figures associated with the Trump administration, or conspiracy-minded characters in Trump’s orbit, are also on the list, such as Jerome R Corsi, who has written conspiracy-minded books about John Kerry, Barack Obama and the September 11 attacks. Corsi is listed as a member of CNP’s board of governors.

    A newcomer to the group since a previous version of the member list was exposed is Charlie Kirk, founder and president of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), a conservative youth organization.

    Others:
    Lisa B Nelson, chief executive of the American Legislative Exchange Council
    Eugene Mayer, president of the Federalist Society
    Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform
    Daniel Schneider, executive director of the American Conservative Union, which organizes the CPac conference
    L Brent Bozell III, the founder of the Media Research Center and a member of the Bozell and Buckley dynasties of conservative activists
    Former GOP congressional majority leader Tom DeLay
    Former Wisconsin governor Scott Walker
    Reagan administration attorney general Edwin Meese III
    Former RNC chair and Trump White House chief of staff Reince Priebus
    Sitting congressmen Barry Loudermilk
    David Trulio, who was the senior adviser and chief of staff to the under-secretary of defense in the Trump administration.
    Marc Johansen, vice-president for the satellites and intelligence program for Boeing
    Jeffrey Coors, of the Coors brewing family
    Lee Roy Mitchell, the founder and chairman of the board for movie chain owner Cinemark Holdings
    Steve Forbes, the founder and chief executive of the Forbes business media empire
    Scott Brown, a senior vice-president at Morgan Stanley

    Other members of the group represent organizations that operate under a veil of secrecy, with conservative “dark money” organizations well represented.

    One member, Lawson Bader, is the president of Donor’s Trust and Donors Capital Fund, non-profits that disguise the identities of their own donors, and whose largesse to rightwing causes has seen them described as “the dark-money ATM of the conservative movement”.

    Another member, Richard Graber, is the president and chief executive of the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation. The Bradley foundation has long bankrolled conservative movement causes, including Donors Trust, and has reportedly also sponsored widespread efforts to discredit the election of Joe Biden in 2020.

    Neil Patel, co-founder and publisher of the Daily Caller
    Larry Beasley, chief executive of the rightwing newspaper the Washington Times
    Floyd Brown, the founder of the Arizona-based Western Journal and founder of the Citizens United Pac

    NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre
    Gun Owners of America founder Tim Macy
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Not only does she hate the institution she is a part of... but odd she touts here business background and acumen... she basically purchased her dad's business that she apparently had no real involvement in... then started a local cross-fit gym and said she knew nothing of running a business...

     
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    From my perspective, both parties practice the same tactics on different intervals.
     
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    It’s a race to the bottom, but dems got a ways to go before getting to trump/trumper level. The reluctance to do so is the only thing keeping the republic alive. We will see if it lasts.
     
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    No, they don't - the Dems constantly do what is right for the country by extending the debt ceiling when Trump was in charge, the Republicans want to shut it all down.

    The parties are not even close to equal in their harm - one channels it's supporters to try to overthrow the government the other wants to provide meals for underprovided kids in schools.

    One is for the RICH in this country and is in their pocket, the other wants equal opportunity for all.

    It is NOT EVEN CLOSE, BUD !

    DD
     
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    As frustrated as I am with Democrats right now it doesn't come close to the Republican Party.

    All of this angst could be ended if just a few House Republicans voted for the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. 19 of their Senate colleagues did but they are either too craven or too partisan to just take the win.

    The GOP collectively have just given up governing. They are unwilling to take any responsibility even for something that they claim to support and their constituents badly need. All they care about is grievance and power.
     
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    Sir i must agree with you on all points .
     
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    so what your saying is that the Gop needs to do the right thing.
     
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    deckard, you are right and I don’t think the republicans — @Commodore @dachuda86 @Os Trigonum @SuraGotMadHops @Gioan Baotixita — give one crap.

    Maybe it’s just pure tribalism. Maybe they have convinced themselves that the Dems are so evil anything and everything has to be done to defeat them.

    So the required response is to continue to govern in the best interests in the country, AND aggressively take steps to influence any remaining independents to vote out republicans until this behavior stops.

    if any of the foregoing posters have anything to say in defense of the Republican vote against raising the debt ceiling, let’s hear it. I am confident there will either be no response, or just flippant bullshit.
     
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