Astros 2021 Season General Discussion Thread

The people who gamble are very upset!

 

While business operations likely cares about those people on a macro level, I think baseball operations would prefer to deflect anger from gamblers to themselves than the players. Though, I think bookies and casinos probably should be more upset as variability evens the odds a little towards, but still not in the gambler's favor.

 

Thanks. My comment was a joke.

If I did bet on these games, would have cleaned up going heavy on Oakland as it was clear towards the end of the Angels series that these guys were running on fumes. Even then, all the games in Oakland were winnable.

 

Sorry, I missed that. I think gambling is the primary reason detailed injury info is released. As much as Chandler whines, it won't change anything. It will take casinos putting pressure on MLB to get the Astros to become more detailed.

 

Agreed. Chandler has been salty ever since the JV elbow story. Seems like he should be moved to another assignment if he can't let it go... or if the Astros continue to stick it to him.

 

All about how they perform in the playoffs. Nothing else matters.
However they keep playing like this and Astros will be one and done.
Also....Yankees, Redsox, Whitesox will pass them with a better record.

 

To not only have a comeback year at the age of 37, but possibly win a batting title? Would be nice if more in the media, even locally, talked about what an incredible season this has been for Gurriel.

 

OT....

 

That would be a very Angels way to solve the problem but there's no guarantee that it would work. All it'd take is 1-2 major injuries and that club is back outside the playoff hunt again. 2021 is a great example of why that's a flawed plan. The Padres built a similar stars and scrubs team with no depth and when injuries/under-performance hit they fell apart. Meanwhile, teams like the Giants and Rays basically have zero active roster spots going to below average players and they've been the top teams in the league all year.

 

Yuli seems like he cares about the winning the batting title for himself and the respect of his ML peers but probably couldn't care less what the media/popular opinion is.

 

?? Adding top end players + lacking depth = stars and scrubs team.

 

They're already in a position to where unless they have some magical farm system talents we don't know about... they're going to waste the primes of Trout/Ohtani.

They should have 'fixed' the farm system years ago. Didn't they get gimmicky this year and choose all pitchers? They're just throwing money at free agents and compounding the lack of depth and lack of attention to the minors.

They're basically trying to emulate the Astros from 2006-2010, with more superstar power and payroll ability (Berkman: Trout, Oswalt:Ohtani, Lee:Rendon). They need a Tejada-like trade to cement the comparison.

 

The Angels for some reason consistently hold the belief that they're "close". You can't compete without getting some farm productivity, not even the Yankees try that.

As an Astros fan I don't mind. The longer they try this stupid approach it's just one less competitor to worry about. I'm more worried about teams like Seattle that seem to finally be playing the long game.

 

Gotta love how an Astros 2021 season general discussion thread turns into an Angels off-season thread

 

While I think Seattle is likely the bigger threat going forward, the Angels have a year or two left when if everything breaks their way, they could contend. They just can't handle a prolonged injury/underperformance from any of Trout, Rendon, and Ohtani. The AL West should be very strong next season with the Mariners rising, and the Angels and A's likely going all-in, and the Astros being the best team in the AL West.

 

Why wouldn’t the Angels extend Ohtani?

 

They’ll certainly try to but Ohtani’s already gone on record that it’s not fun playing for a mediocre team. Totally possible for him to jump ship to one of the other west coast teams, basically all of which are more competitive than the Angels.

 

They shouldn't extend him yet. He signed a 2 year deal for this season and next season. He's only making 5.5 million next year and then has another year of arbitration for 2023. Trout and Rendon are making nearly 75 million the next 5 years. They need a SS, multiple starters, and multiple relievers. Not going to be easy to plug their holes.