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40% Increase in Police Officers Killed In Line Of Duty

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Start holding these judges accountable that let these violent criminals out on bonds.

    If a Doctor misdiagnoses he gets sued and loses everything. Houston judges keep setting them free and nothing happens to them
     
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    Neither of those are even the slightest bit true.
     
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    To the Bat Cave
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Judges get fired? Doctors don't get sued?
     
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    Judges can be removed from office administratively and via elections, to say nothing of being censured or disbarred. Put a pause the google image search for '90s cartoon screen shoots and document your claim that any doctor who misdiagnoses anyone, anywhere will automatically lose everything.
     
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    I think its pretty common sense that its not even when its not a doctor's fault, malpractice lawyers salivate at the thought of anything they can make a case out of. Medical litigation is insane. You're pretty clueless with your unconditional defense. There's a reason documentation is 50x longer than it needs to be, see the aforementioned.
     
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    More gun control, stronger welfare system. Let's reduce violence in this country.

    Also agree with the bond system needing to be reformed for violent offenders. We should be tougher on violent crime, and way more lenient on non-violent offenses.
     
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    I rebutted the false assertion that judges are impervious to removal, and the separate referencing of doctors' removability to imply a correspondingly absolute condemnation in the face of individual errors.

    I don't know how your courthouse drool play kink reaffirms either your bullshit "even when it's not a doctor's fault" litigation strategy or abrogates any impact or role of individual hospital or professional board reviews, malpractice insurance or any of the several intermediary steps and mitigating factors and processes that negate the original claim that all doctors immediately and universally "lose everything" off of any and all individual msdiagnoses, often commonly known as first opinions.
     
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    Not to make light of death but a high percent increase with such a low amount to begin with exaggerates the increase in prevalence in some systemic way.

    Like you aren't going to say there is a systemic increase in the amount of deaths caused by falling refrigerators because it rose 100% from last year when the increase was from 2 to 4.
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    We live in an anger/hate culture.
     
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    Even though police officers have a dangerous job it's a rare case that they are killed on duty.

    Other than that the number of cops being killed and the increase in murders overall is significant.

    And the number of blacks killed by police is down 63% from 2015
    https://www.manhattan-institute.org/police-black-killings-homicide-rates-race-injustice
     
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    I think you're giving yourself way too much credit here, its once again, common sense that any sort of infraction is treated on a spectrum that could be as benign as a scolding, or overly try-hard internet post such as ^ above but yes generally gross medial errors that result in serious harm will **** up your life. To narrow your scope and think it often just relates to "msdiagnosis" tells me how out of touch you are.

    You should probably go ask actual physicians etc if you'd like your answer. Human error is the mainstay of any profession, but the line is thin in medicine. To your point about professional review boards, what do you think happens there? You do realize what credentialing is right? You don't have to be sued, if there are any flags on you then getting credentialed at individual institutions becomes increasingly difficult and you might as well "have lost everything." Go on though, I'm really sure your google skills are unparalleled. You're too caught up in some weird point you're trying to make here to continue any sort of intelligent discussion..
     
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    Those were the exact assertions made, framed in absolute terms meant to explicitly contrast judges' and doctors' removability, and to which I responded and accurately rebutted. You needing to broaden the scope to mention "salivating lawyers," whatever physicians you're currently blowing and reference "googling" you yourself haven't engaged in are just wasted posts.
     
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    *shrug*
    People learned that
    1. Better to be judge by 12 than carried by 6
    and
    2. People who are packing . .. the cops bring in without incident .. . . unarmed people get roughed up and or shot.

    aka . . .people simply shooting back . . .

    Rocket River
     
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    Murders are up, in general. 2020 was up something like 25% over the prior year. I suppose it's not that surprising that murders of LEO would move with it. Obviously, neither of these things are good. I suspect its Covid driving much of it, and hopefully when the turbulence of the pandemic passes, the murder rate and the cop-killing rate will decline.

    Obviously, our system has some allowance for setting bonds to assert some control on the accused. But, when they're bonded out, they aren't convicted of anything yet. Sure there's potential that some hardened criminal will make bond of a violent offense he really did commit and then offend again before conviction. But, there's also potential that there is an innocent person falsely accused of a violent crime that can be denied their freedom, lose their job, lose their house, etc etc because of some overzealous bond requirement without their guilt ever being proven. Its facile to say 'those people' need to stay locked up. Some day, you might find yourself accused of being one of 'those people.'
     
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    I think alot of people have some different ideas about Bond and Bail
    JV - Can you confirm that it is a constitutional right?


    Rocket River
     

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