“They say they heard Joe Biden was opening the border up so they came.”

So if that's the case why do we need to Make America Great Again?

 

It’s incredible that an OP so consistently wrong about so much of modern American history feels emboldened all of a sudden.

 

It's great again. Keeping it great is challenging.

 

wow. Don’t have a heart attack. You’re right . . . Republican operatives definitely went deep into Central and South America to spread the rumor that Biden had opened the border. I hear Republicans even rented planes and dropped leaflets from the sky over more remote jungle areas. All because, well you know, Republicans actually want more illegal immigrants crossing the US border and coming into the country.

So I stand corrected. Boy was I ever wrong. Thanks for the wakeup call to reality.

 

The Post? I guess it's the premier rumor turd side for finding turd rumors.

Perception can become reality. I mean Obama was one cold b*stard tightening up America's borders, but still the Cons attacked him for...the borders.

I'm sure rube immigrants thought at the time, Psst hey...t's the best time to sneak over with a half immigrant Black man at the helm!

 

Isn’t Florida closer than Texas to Haiti ?

 

Kinky.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...n-brings-surge-haitian-migrants-texas-border/

Opinion: Biden’s mixed messaging on immigration brings a surge of Haitian migrants to the Texas border
Opinion by the
Editorial Board
September 20, 2021 at 3:39 p.m. EDT

The sight of federal officers from the Western hemisphere’s wealthiest country corralling and deporting migrants from the hemisphere’s poorest one is a wrenching tableau, and nothing for Americans to be proud of. That is what is underway now, as U.S. Border Patrol agents unleash a show of force against thousands of desperate Haitian and other asylum seekers camped on the banks of the Rio Grande in South Texas.

The episode is a distillation of Washington’s immigration policy dysfunction, tweaked, in some ways for the worse, by the Biden administration’s incongruous messaging. Those Haitians, who make up the majority of some 14,000 migrants packed along the border near Del Rio, Tex., didn’t arrive by accident. What led many or most of them toward the border — in addition to unscrupulous smugglers — was what has turned out for most to be the false promise that a new president, publicly committed to a more humane approach, would relax the previous administration’s draconian policies. Large numbers of them had been living for years in South America, having fled their home country after it was hit by a devastating earthquake in 2010.

That’s largely what Mr. Biden has done for others, especially Central American families with children, tens of thousands of whom have been admitted to the United States this year. And he did so even as administration officials urged them not to attempt to cross the border illegally. That glaring disconnect, between official dissuasion and on-the-ground leniency, has been received by Haitian and other migrants as an invitation to take their chances on reaching the U.S. border.

Now the door has slammed shut for many of them in Del Rio, especially the Haitians, whom U.S. officials began loading onto deportation flights over the weekend. It is fair to ask why Haitian migrants, virtually all Black, are being subjected to expulsion on a scale that has not been directed at lighter-skinned Central Americans.

Haiti, reeling from crime, political upheaval, economic calamity and a devastating earthquake this summer, is in no shape to handle the return of thousands of deportees. Yet that is the burden Mr. Biden is imposing, evidently in hopes of deterring further waves of migrants. Under a public health rule invoked by the Trump administration at the pandemic’s outset, asylum seekers are being deported without hearings on daily flights to Haiti.

The policy is inhumane; equally, it is inhumane to incentivize migrants to risk the perilous, expensive journey across Central America and Mexico. Having mismanaged migration in its first eight months in office, which contributed to a two-decade-high surge in illegal border crossings, the administration clearly fears a backlash at the polls in next year’s midterm elections more than it fears the wrath of immigration advocates. Republicans, sensing electoral advantage, are using border “chaos” as a cudgel.

Many of the failings in the U.S. immigration system are reflected in the mess in Del Rio: the absence of any workable channel by which migrants could apply for asylum south of the border; the massive backlog and shortage of judges in migration courts, which means asylum applicants, once admitted, may wait two or three years for their cases to be heard; and the misalignment of high domestic demand for cheap immigrant labor with an inadequate legal supply of it.

Successive administrations tried to address some of those problems. Partisanship in Congress doomed those efforts. No major immigration reform has been enacted since the Reagan administration. Is it any wonder we’ve arrived at this juncture?

​

 

AP is reporting that border agents are letting immigrants stay in the U.S. So you might say . . . the border has been opened.

https://apnews.com/article/immigrat...paso-del-rio-3a8146cbcb47b9df7a31a19594df3ec6

excerpt

DEL RIO, Texas (AP) — Many Haitian migrants camped in a small Texas border town are being released in the United States, two U.S. officials said, undercutting the Biden administration’s public statements that the thousands in the camp faced immediate expulsion.

Haitians have been freed on a “very, very large scale” in recent days, according to one U.S. official who put the figure in the thousands. The official, who has direct knowledge of operations, was not authorized to discuss the matter Tuesday and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Many have been released with notices to appear at an immigration office within 60 days, an outcome that requires less processing time from Border Patrol agents than ordering an appearance in immigration court and points to the speed at which authorities are moving, the official said.

The Homeland Security Department has been busing Haitians from Del Rio to El Paso, Laredo and the Rio Grande Valley along the Texas border, and this week added flights to Tucson, Arizona, the official said. They are processed by the Border Patrol at those locations.

A second U.S. official, also with direct knowledge and speaking on the condition of anonymity, said large numbers of Haitians were being processed under immigration laws and not being placed on expulsion flights to Haiti that started Sunday. The official couldn’t be more specific about how many.

For Haitians hoping to get to the United States, the administration’s decision to release many people is a welcome relief.

Three hours after leaving the makeshift camp under the International Bridge with his pregnant wife, Mackenson Veillard stood outside a gas station in Del Rio, Texas waiting on a Greyhound Bus to take the couple to a cousin who is living in San Antonio.

Veillard was one of many to be processed and released on Monday, possibly because his wife is expecting their first child in two months.

“I felt so stressed,” Veillard said. “But now, I feel better. It’s like I’m starting a new life.”

However, the decision to release many Haitians, particularly without a clearly stated criteria for who stays and who gets returned to Haiti, will likely add to criticism of the White House, which is already facing bipartisan condemnation. Republicans say Biden administration policies led Haitians to believe they would get asylum. Democrats are expressing outrage after images went viral this week of Border Patrol agents on horseback using aggressive tactics against the migrants.
​

more at the link

 

"I heard Biden was banning guns" -- Big fat dumb dumb buying all the guns at local gunnery store

 

Seems like Haitians will probably have a pretty credible refugee claim, between the earthquakes, hurricanes, political assassinations, and other national calamities. Process them.

Isn't that the white nationalist think-tank that Stephen Miller liked so much?

And for a little whatabouttrumpism, remember back in 2017 when Trump revoked the Temporary Protection Status of 46,000 Haitian refugees that came after the 2010 earthquake? I'm not saying at least Biden isn't as bad as Trump. I'm just saying Trump and his white nationalist buddies are dicks.

Instead of committing troops and contractors and spending billions upon billions of dollars on failed nation-building boondoggles on the other side of the planet where we're not wanted, we should build up the nations right in our own backyard. So we have strong and healthy neighbors, good trading partners, and good allies. And they'd all be happy to stay at home and not make dangerous journeys for the opportunity to live under a bridge in the Texas summer.

 

You are correct. CIS was founded by noted white supremist John Tanton who also founded Federation of American Immigration reform (FAIR). FAIR was funded by the Pioneer Fund, a group that promoted eugenics. Tanton opposed immigration for fear of what it was doing to American culture. Tanton was involved in efforts to make English the official language in Arizona but after memos he sent expressing concerns about Hispanic immigration and fertility rates he was forced to resign.

Surprised basso chose to cite this group... well, maybe not surprised.

 

To be fair to basso, he just posted a terribly written article by the NY Post, and it was the NY Post that made the dubious choice to extensively quote from CIS. Though at this point, it seems like the rep of the NY Post itself has gone from merely irresponsible to outright malignant.

 

Such a weird edit.

Congratulations

 

if I am in the border patrol, I start looking for work with non-national law enforcement immediately

your bosses are not going to back you up on anything

 

I am a huge supporter of law enforcement. But just like there are bad cops on the streets there are bad LE in the Border Patrol, and its the responsibility of their leadership to call those out, just as its the responsibility of local police leadership to call out reprehensible behavior of officer in their forces.

It should be noted that retrumplicans were quick to distribute pictures of the border patrol agents on horseback when it served their political purpose... but now want to complain when leadership speaks out against that same behavior.