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Afghanistan 2021

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. adoo

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    mis-information by Traitor George
    COVID infection deaths have been the lowest, by far, in these countries

    Hong Kong, Taiwan, New Zealand and Singapore,

    the common thread that binds them together were, a lots less vaccination than the US, quarantine and masking
    for the education of the willfully ignorant Traitor George

     
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  2. durvasa

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    Who should this swift, forceful response be directed against? It's not like ISIS advertises their location.
     
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  3. sugrlndkid

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    Our nation has officially lost her standing as the world's most influential foreign government. Our allies despise us. Our enemies laugh at us. RIP to the service men/women, along with innocent American and Afghani civilians who died as a result of gross incompetency and dereliction of duty at the highest level. We are no longer safe at home or abroad - and American enemies will continue to be emboldened. US citizens or Afghani people that assisted us during this nightmarish 20+ years will be tortured and executed/slaughtered in the coming months.

    I always agreed that it was time to leave the middle East. But not like this...And innocent people will pay the ultimate price for this.
     
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  4. dobro1229

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    Do you think that these officials giving information and dealing with the Taliban are NOT doing in depth risk analysis with every piece of information that they give the Taliban?? I need to learn more about this, and frankly I expect that these officials to be called up to Capital Hill soon to give answers, but I have to assume that at this high of a level there's a really good reason for giving personal information of certain people to the Taliban.

    Yes, this needs to be answered to. No I don't believe that in a vacuum the Biden people are just willy nilly acting like best of friends to the Taliban giving them the spare keys to their homes.
     
  5. Gioan Baotixita

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    Our blood and treasure died in vain but with honor. Thanks for nothing you POS Depends wearing clown. It did not have to happen like this.
     
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  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Bingo. When people are emotional, they lose their ability to reason using logic. The mere mention of Trump causes people to just break down intellectually...which obviously we've seen in this thread. Rational, ultra-high IQ, clear thinkers such as myself are not burdened by this affliction.
     
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  7. dobro1229

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    Then HOW?? Tell us the grand master plan that someone like Trump would have conjured up that would have gotten over 100,000 people out of Kabul after the city fell in just a couple weeks with a dozen or less casualties.

    Also - How many people did Trump evacuate from Kabul after he struck the deal with the Taliban back in 2019?

    It's like you guys just forget that it's freaking Afghanistan. I think this is a bad day in the exit of course, and man you have to feel terrible for those families whose sons and daughters died in a humanitarian mission by a cowardly attacker, but in the grand scheme of things I really don't understand what you guys were expecting. You want to pull out of a war, but seem to have no idea what happens in reality in order to accomplish that.

    This whole line about our Allies is just hot garbage, and something that Chuck Todd would ask to drum up BS on his show. Name me one NATO country that has publicly stated that Afghanistan is a strategic necessity for the Western world and Europe to win and nation build a Democracy in. The whole Taiwan example is so incredibly ignorant, and has nothing to do with Afghanistan.
     
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  8. El_Conquistador

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    Sure -- it's quite simple.

    1. Civilians leave first, military (including equipment) leaves second.
    2. Keep Bagram Airfield to give you a SECURE airport to evacuate people from. Kabul airport is in an urban area, has several entrances, and is virtually impossible to secure, as we have unfortunately seen.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    Picture of Joe . . .
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    Rocket River
     
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  10. Andre0087

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    We don’t need to further insult Trump we get it already.
     
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  11. HTM

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    People were literally trumpeting the withdrawal and bragging about how there was no casualties on twitter.... and that's ok? and now there's casualties that cannot be pointed out?
     
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    they're also all islands.
     
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    Being happy that the rescue efforts were being successful is wrong? So instead you are trumpeting the deaths of American servicemen for political points? That ok?

    Reporting on the deaths, respecting their soldiers service and the horrific impact on their families and friends. Or... "Biden should resign". "I told you so!" And see above.

    You tell me...
     
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  15. Gioan Baotixita

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    The thing about giving up Bagram Airbase just baffled my mind. This feels like it is all planned out ahead of time, and if it is, the American people deserve to know the truth. Our brave and honorable soldiers deserve better than this.
     
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    Planned ahead of time?? Are you nuts? Do you think this is a 9/11 truther 2.0 opportunity or something? Stop listening to Alex Jones please.
     
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    Somehow we'll find a place to have a response. It just may not be the right one and we'll kill some civilians in the way.
     
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    We lost servicemen and women routinely every week on a consistent basis for over a decade from 2002-2013 and one day of service never causalities to withdraw somehow is the grand mistake of the failed war in Afghanistan.

    You people couldn't give two ***** about service member deaths besides using them for political points. ****ing disgusting.
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    It's obvious when someone speaks from their ass.


    There is no such thing as bringing back equipment. The opportunity cost to gather up all armored vehicles, weapons etc and ship them back is terribly expensive and not worth it. This always happens when we leave a country.

    We leave behind equipment all the time and explode **** that has to do with sensitive comms.
     
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    God I wish Trump was the one who pulled out. Now the right is back to being war hawks. That's the one positive aspect of Trump is that his cultist following turned right wingers into anti-interventionists.

    But thar didn't last long.
     

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