No way should we ever do that we need to remain in Korea, Germany, Japan etc and keep in all bases around the world. Do you not see how much influence the CCP is trying to gain? They are our enemy and sooner or later other countries will have to pick sides. Another Cold War is brewing…
Yep. There is no graceful way to get out of it. This just needs to be a case of ripping the band aid off. It stings but it needs to be done and we need to move forward.
Hell yeah! Surround those mofos now they are out and about not holding up as rats in caves and annihilate them. Do it right this time! Bah...we would just f*ck it up!
The only reason I'm able to sleep at night is because I think the aliens* would prevent us from using those nukes. *The aliens might actually just be us from the future or a different dimension
They mad we pulled out too fast and didn't make little bastards to run the country. Only cuz we've been jizzing in their buttholes for the past twenty years. DO IT RIGHT SLEEPY JOE
It would take 10's of thousands of troops to even begin to "stabilize" limited parts of Afghanistan. The idea is absurd, as is the thought that "the Taliban is probably not that well trained." How do you think they survived for two decades? How do you think they pulled off what they just did? It took thousands of hardened fighters led by ruthless, intelligent commanders who prepared for this a very, very long time. No, it would entail something I am ardently against. Another enormous invasion, in my opinion. The Taliban has become the owners of what is likely a large majority of the armaments we gave the Afghan "government" over the years to fight the Taliban. Now the Taliban would use it to oppose whatever action we might take to go back in if we use force. So we don't go back in to "stabilize" the "country." A proven impossibility. If we go back in at all, it would be in a limited way in an effort to do what we should have arranged long ago, to get all the people out that now have large targets on their collective backs that the Taliban is looking for right now. Thousands of people who worked for us and trusted us. That would be highly dangerous, if we were to do it, and would need the cooperation of the Taliban to avoid what could otherwise be a horrific number of casualties, including civilians, in my opinion. Since I don't trust the Taliban as far as I can spit, I'm not optimistic about any of it. Also, we can't forget that it is far from simply Afghans. There are a host of other people, non-Afghans, on the ground there in different parts of the country who need to be rescued. Not to be overlooked, and they have been by millions of Americans over the last 20 years, in my opinion, was the involvement of our NATO allies and our other non-NATO friends and allies, who all stood behind us after 9/11 and joined us in Afghanistan, spending their own "blood and treasure" having our back. That they would go back in again, except to rescue who they can manage to get out, is unlikely in the extreme. In my opinion. I keep thinking of a quote from Game of Thrones, OP, but you aren't Jon Snow.
No going back in force. We absolutely had to go there 20 years ago, and we did, for the large part, what we needed to. We had no business staying around and trying to impose a democratic government upon a tribal culture.
The assumption isn't wrong (they aren't that well trained), but you can't truly stamp out an insurgency. Counter insurgency doesn't work and has never worked.
