No I’m actually not. It’s obvious you haven’t read the statements from these women. We’re done, you can’t converse in good faith because of your blind support in someone that doesn’t deserve it.
I didnt know we had a Good Faith Agreement but however, I do believe in TRUTH and when you show me where these women said that, all I have to go off of is what has been relayed through the media and/or press conferences. Again, let's not JUDGE until all this is over.
No, you obviously haven’t read the reports so we can’t have an honest conversation. He will be judged. I’m going to side with his victims, for the time being.
in attempting to be objective in this type of deal it's hard to read details and not think dude is at minimum a creeper. There are too many of the same stories. It may not add up to much of a crime and can perhaps give some creepers an avenue to skirt creeptown.. Perhaps air humping isn't illegal and we can sit around the campfire discussing various ways to legallly use my penis
Why are you siding with the victims? I can see if he was caught on tape or a recording similar to Trump but at the moment, even though it's 22 vs 1, it's still "He say, she say". So again, why are you siding with the victims? I'm of the belief that WE don't know and WE shouldn't judge, WE need to wait and let it play out in court. WHY ARE YOU TAKING SIDES AT THIS POINT?
Didn't you ever ask yourself, if you were one of the females and you walked into the room and Deshaun or any man was naked, if you felt uncomfortable, why not immediately ask him to put his clothes on. Why would you proceed? Why wouldn't you leave the room and ask him or them to put their underwear back on? A PROFESSIONAL wouldn't have proceeded. Once again, at no point did he possess a gun, knife or held them against their will.
Do I think he has a fetish for Happy Endings, yes! But I do not believe what cmoak 1982 and others are implying; Rape, touching women private parts, etc. He used poor judgment but it doesn't make him a Rapist, Sexual predator, etc. He's 25!!
Because there’s a clear pattern, one that shows he’s a predator. And don’t be hypocritical, you’re choosing sides as well.
That’s the problem I think, similar stories and more than just air humping. Touching the victims “accidentally” with his penis and groping in most cases is not ok.
You are making it sound like they were all hoes and while I don't doubt many were.. the reality is that a fair number were legitimate and in the actual business of massage not selling sex. I'm not sure how that's hard to follow/accept. Next in any business you can deal with challenge clients and oftentimes say to yourself 'this customer/job isn't worth it ' and want to quit only to power through it. It's not like he had his wang out from the get. Still most of the legit ones were not repeats and when they realized what it was they stopped fairly soon. Many at jeopardy of their job not wanting to power through it. If the argument is 'all masseuse are hoes' then you are off too and think women are hoes in other professions? These 'she was asking for it' mindset is as old as tired right there with 'she wanted it' which is another tasteless rapey way to think
Well said. In this situation there is no winner. Everyone is losing, but the women are the ones that are suffering the most.
If you need to use legalese and whether or not you crossed state lines as legal usage or not of your penis? you might be a redneck.
You are validating my argument! The women who were professional stopped or never serviced him again, the women who continued with the session or elected to service him again, obviously there was something there. You called them hoes, I never said that.....maybe they felt some sort of attraction to him and elected to go from there. However, as you said, the women who were professional, they elected to halt the session or finish and got out. Once he turned a certain way, once he rubbed against them, I'm sure they spoke up, I'm sure they told him to stop and obviously he stopped because no one accused him of rape.....Having sex with someone against their will.