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How good can Sengun be?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DonatelloLimestone, Aug 14, 2021.

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Best comparasion for Sengun

  1. Jokic

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  2. Plumlee

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  3. Nurkic

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  4. Sabonis

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  5. KAT

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  6. Role player/Starter

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  1. YallMean

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    I see none of them in Sengun. Wishful thinking. Sengun will be Sengun and make his own imprints to the game.
     
  2. YallMean

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    By the way for those of you comparing Sengun to Pau, the young Pau would run around statute of liberty dunking on people. Paul was picked at number 3. Sengun right now is not even close. But I believe the kid has the tools to be one of a kind on his own.
     
  3. cmoak1982

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    He’s a far better athlete than Brad Miller.

    His athletic comp is more Al Horford or Pau Gasol
     
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    I reported this post
     
  5. YallMean

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    Then the NBA scouts in other 29 teams know nothing and should give their paychecks to you.
     
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    My bad. His ceiling is definitely Giannis.
     
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    As opposed to you?
     
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    Not to mention there were several pre draft boards with him top 10.
    Take the skin tone bias out of it and look at what he is doing.
    Brad Miller isn’t doing 360 dunks, or crossing someone over from the 3 point line and finishing lobs.
     
  9. YallMean

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    No to you. Horford was picked at 3rd or 4th? You are saying he has athleticism matching Horford and Pau. Then the NBA must have got it wrong. I don't know if you kids remember Chris Wilcox. NBA picks athleticim at this position more than anything. He won the Turkish league MVP and has the athleticism comparable to Horford and Pau. Wow.
     
  10. cmoak1982

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    Kid?

    It is literally my job to evaluate athletic ability lol.
    You don’t know what you’re talking about, period youngster.
    Your “eyes” deceive you.
    That’s not even mentioning your ignorance, 16th isn’t low, and definitely not passed over by 29 teams. Smart one you are
     
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    My opinion had nothing to do with his skin color. Draft boards are not NBA scouts. NBA don't typically get raw physicality wrong. That's the easiest attribute to pick a prospect on. Will you say he is more atheletic than Yi Jianlian of China, who was hyped by draft boards as a top 3 pick and ended being picked at 6 by the bucks.
     
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    He reminds me a bit of Tjones .

    I think sengun has a bit higher skill level , but Jones had a pretty nba ready body (was ready year two for sure)

    let’s hope Keith Jones gets luckier with the current crop than he did with Dmo , Jones , Patterson , parsons , Dekker , And Dwight even if we didn’t draft him and he was actually pretty healthy for us . maybe our process of developing bigs has improved ? But here are a lot of back injuries in there (Patterson acl I think)

    got to moderate his load . Got to moderate how much muscle he puts on and quickly . probably, I mean , I don’t know **** .

    His defensive quickness has impressed me. But let’s see how it looks in nba competition . My guess is that he has a short tank early on. Most 18 years olds do . Especially bigs.

    To that extent I’m glad we still have wood and Garuba and theis. If you wanted to you could split 24 min x 4 . But , I’m sure sengun and Garuba will be under 20 to begin . injuries and foul trouble always make a difference too .

    How often will we go small ? I doubt that much . Even though Tate is strong as a 4 and maybe even as a 5 if he’s not vs a giant . But , he’s played a lot his rookie year . And we will try to work him up to 82 games this year . All that banging in the paint will wear him out , unless he bulks up even more , in which case some of his quickness will be lost.

    Back to sengun , his offense is best as a 5 . I’d like to see if he can stick on the floor defensively as someone who can guard more strength oriented perimeter players .

    offensively his most modern comparison might be Julius randle . Big body with a good handle , moves to get to the rim .

    he kinda plays like a left handed PF I guess lol . Yes Dmo is a comparison too , but their body types were different . Dmo had better post moves in 14-15 , but that was his 3rd year .

    A little bit of scola . But he’s not as confident from the post right now . I hope he develops the midrange J too . Scola was ****ing lethal and a monster competitor . If sengun has ANY of that , we will be happy lol.

    Needs to stop flopping. Don’t want to develop that reputation .

    Overall upside profile is a top 20-25 player if things go mostly right . Possible 2nd-3rd best guy on a 1st division team

    Little bit of Carlos boozer too
     
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    No he’s not more athletic than Yi. But neither is Horford or Pau. Yi was an elite athlete, just not overly skilled
     
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    Absolutely can see Randle and Boozer-lite comps
     
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    He'll, you are saying he has athleticism comparable to Horford and Pau? First I havent sent it. I have seen some awkwardness from the kid but that's not a knock on him. He is going to get better. Second if he does have it no way he would have slipped this far, NBA scouting doesnt get physical ability wrong like never.
     
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    Absolutely I’m saying comparable to Horford and Pau. Neither were elite athletically, they were solid athletes, coordinated, but not overly explosive. Same as Sengun
     
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    Yi is slow laterally. He couldn't defend and that's why he couldn't stay in the NBA. If you are saying Yi is more atheletic than Sengun, I am a bit concerneded in terms of basketball.

    Let's leave it at this. You are not convincing me and we both root for this kid.
     
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    Explosiveness? I am talking about lateral quickness. Are you saying how quick he can jump?
     
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    Yi is both more explosive laterally and vertically than Pau, Horford and Sengun.

    You’re just wrong. That’s ok
     
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    And lateral quickness is comparable in Horford, Pau and Sengun
     
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