I guarantee Tilman is just as excited as we are. Got rid of the old regime and now has his own fresh team to build from the ground up I bet he treats Jalen like he’s his first born moving forward
Tilman is saving face bc his 3 years ahve made himi and thus the rockets a laughing stock. MDA's agent who he lied to publicly and for the first time in that agents life he had to call espn adn go public that the owner lied about the offer he said he gave. That guy is one of the most linked up agents in the business, represetns a bunch of coaches, also runs the summer league and the nba is a small world. Just like Griffing now is losing reptuation with redicks agent and a few others, don't be surprised to see Zion leave in a few yeras. You can't waste your short career with incompetence partnership in a team sport. Harden may not be liked here, heck even the world may not like his style of play and foul bailting...i didn't enjoy watching it...but the players STILL voted him players mvp, hes got the respect. Rockets threw him under the bus in the dumbest way first devaluing him then saying they offered him 100 million and the owner contineus to lie to say we're rebuilding bc we went'all in' when anyone can see the transactions of the last 3 years with harden and see 90 percent tax savings moves. Maybe Tlman getting boo'd in houston in june had an affect. I'm all for it and need him to get this ain't landry's economics so if this is the new tide, lets rebuild right. Tate was a STEAL. Stone has been amazing in the draft thus far and tate is a great contract. Good job rockets, I guess tilly too Stone....this young team is fun to route for
Lol hes gotta treat the team like that for jalen to stay. REmember as much as he leaked crap about harden, he also said he offered him100 million for 2 years to stay. thats his cash cow and now he is the laughingstock owner of the league So hopefully he does do this rebuild different, so far stone is kling it and when the time comes for the owner to do the one impact he has and pay up when we have a shot, i hope he learns this time otherwise Green will leave as will any other star We are very lucky to have a fast turn around and new direction after teh abysmal performance by our ownership last 3 years. Learning lessons is the right plan and i like the players we have. Can't wait to see what Silas does with these young guys
Why is it that whenever the Rockets do one of these very small financial decisions that it is plastered by the writers that break the story everywhere about how wonderful Tilman is and how generous he is.... I remember this same crap with Cousins last year. No one falling for that crap.
It's good business but it's also obvious business. There's no advantage to not guaranteeing it. Tate is a genuine asset.
Yep... go check ANY team in the league who just guaranteed a less than 2 million dollar contract.Heck many of the moves his offseason ,go see which one is labeled as the owner guarantees it. Go check how many arenas in the nba have their owner splashed all over above the team more prominently -there seems to be a consistent lack of self awareness on howto brand and what is a good PR move, its almost like "shut up and listen" and "five percent" and his business advice make no ****ing sense. Or go see how many owners negotiate with coaches in the press and even have the gal to lie about it. Or how many owners have to let the owners son shadow him and answer to a 24 year old, I wonder if tad And Darly have to do that in philly? It isn't surprising to go get good PR and get access i geuss in someways its good tilman realizes he f'd up and has to save face but its still a desperate look for the franchise. Tilmanisms/landrys rockets hurt our reputation more than teh money credit signs they put on our jerseys My heart is out to Stone. This is an odd job for a GM and hesand the analsytics team have done great draftin and anyways. This move is a no brainer. I hope tate is here for the long run
Don't forget guaranteeing Cousins contract before he was released. I'm sure Fertitta is aware of his perception to Rocket's fans and he seems like he is trying to do something about it. Like you said, we'll see what he does when it comes time to go all in.
I agree to some extent but I think it was a necessary evil trying to get better when you have a flawed roster around a flawed star. We never had the "3s and layups" roster to place around Harden yet Harden was the best in the league at generating those types of shots for himself or others....but you are right - we operated that way for years at the expense of our role player's happiness and all that flexibility never really netted us the opportunity to change our roster in meaningful ways that offset the turmoil it created in the locker room with guys irritated that they weren't being taken care of. The value of "flexibility" was not properly weighted against the value of building an empowered team and people aren't empowered if their contract status and the status of those around them are always in limbo - no one wants to build something bigger than themselves if they are fearing they won't be part of seeing it through.
I sure hope so. The value of the pressure on here that we actually realize when someone is lying and the moves that are beyond making ESPN headlnes that ti takes to build a winner. If he can see that, change, and not handle it like he has in the past o deflecting and blaming. We all win. So go for it,Tilly!
Do you think morey did this though? Its like walking into a Landrys where tilman cut some cost or cheapend some product and then screaming at teh manager for doing this whose just following orders. these guys essentialyl are hired to be fall guys ro the face so the main guy doesn't get bad PR but we can still apply logic in this board on what incentive Daryl' would have to throw away assets for tax savings when they don't help our future flexiblity, literally benefit one man. Hes just following the mandate. Unless his real passion in life is saving Tilman Fertitta money. Its like any job you are managing, if your mandate is just to 'be the best' or win at all cost then you collect assets and go for it. the money spent isn't you're salary daryl was always working under the confines first of a cheap owenr who wanted best bang for buck in Les but les did go into the tax a grand total of : 1 times. Then it got worse with Tilman https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/10/16/21519593/daryl-morey-houston-rockets-luxury-tax-resign And that was the one thing that Morey never really had. According to the cap numbers at Spotrac, which go back to the 2010-11 season, the Rockets barely went over the luxury tax (just $3.65 million over) in their one season (2015-16) as a taxpayer. The Warriors spent $49.63 million in penalties over the last five seasons, while even the small-market Thunder spent $33.73 million. There was no excuse for Houston to not open up the checkbook. This is a franchise located in the fourth-biggest metro area in the U.S. that has had a superstar in the prime of his career. Alexander sat on his hands while Houston’s rivals went all in, counting on Morey’s ability to use advanced statistics to turn water into wine This refusal to spend money became farcical once Alexander sold the team to Tilman Fertitta in 2017. Fertitta spent so much money ($2.2 billion) to purchase the Rockets that he may not have had the liquidity to go into the red to build a title contender. Houston was a laughingstock around the league for the amount of juggling it had to do to stay under the tax. The best example came at the trade deadline last season, when Morey used a future first-round pick to shed the salaries of Brandon Knight and Marquese Chriss. There was no basketball reason for the move. It was just done to cut costs. It’s not that Knight and Chriss would have helped the Rockets. But there were certainly a lot of better things that Morey could have used that pick for. Houston also spent that season in a bizarre staring contest with Danuel House Jr. House is the kind of diamond in the rough that Morey routinely uncovered in Houston, an undrafted free agent on a two-way contract who would become a starting-caliber wing. The problem was that players on those deals can spend only 45 days with the NBA team during the season before their contracts have to be converted. Money in Houston was so tight that Morey had to send House back to the G League when he wouldn’t sign a below-market long-term deal. He replaced House with two players he signed off the street (Gerald Green and Kenneth Faried) before bringing him back right before the playoffs. It’s not like House was asking for the world. He signed a three-year, $11 million contract in the offseason. But even that was more than Morey could offer at the time. Houston’s limited financial flexibility became an even bigger issue last season after the trade for Westbrook. With the team’s two best players costing a combined $76.7 million, it became almost impossible for Morey to fill out the roster while staying under the luxury tax. Morey and head coach Mike D’Antoni had to conjure up production from players other teams didn’t want. Jeff Green went from being cut by the Jazz to being a crucial piece of the Rockets’ small-ball attack in the playoffs. It was the same story with Austin Rivers, who had been on three teams in five seasons before landing in Houston, and Ben McLemore, who had one foot out of the NBA before the Rockets turned him into a 3-point sniper. All were more valuable in Houston than anywhere else in the league because Morey identified what they could do well and put them in roles that didn’t ask them to do much else.
The "Morey treats players as assets" criticism came way before the Tillman era but since everyone hates Fertitta I guess we won't revisit the timeline. ...I'm not hating on Morey for this - I mean logically, he is right that it is in the team's best interests to maintain maximum flexibility for all of it's players to be able to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves but this is the reality of where what is in "the business" best interest is often at odds with what is in the best interest of the people who work there. I don't know where the balance is in all of this, but I would say to pin it on Tillman is at very least inaccurate.
Correct me if Im Wrong but I heard you can only use one trade exception person league year Maybe @BimaThug can enlighten me
