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Tilman guarantees Tate’s contract

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Aug 8, 2021.

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Is Tilman a good boss?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ashleyem

    ashleyem Member

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    This is a really nice gesture by our owner!
     
  2. Jalen Green OnlyFan

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    I’d reserve judgment for when we enter contender status again and he is faced with paying luxury tax.

    But he is trying to develop a reputation as a guy that treats players well. Sent harden, oladipo, and tucker exactly where they wanted to go. Sent a private jet to pick up Green.

    Maybe his ego is so big that he’ll be more motivated to spend to win on a team that he built with his coach and gm.
     
  3. DreamShook

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    let me figure out a way to hate this. brb.
     
  4. vator

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    lmao…right. I had a similar reaction lol
     
  5. don grahamleone

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    I guarantee this was a good idea.
     
  6. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
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    after consulting with napalm and the school of management, may I suggest the following:


    David Weiner

    @BimaThug

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    3h

    Good of
    @TilmanJFertitta
    to guarantee Tate’s salary this season as a reward for his hard-nosed play. He did the same thing for PJ Tucker’s salary last season.

    compare Tate to a young PJ Tucker; Overseas, defense, developing three point shot. Start a rumor Tilman plans to trade Tate and a second for a first that will probably be about ten spots higher on a championship contender.
     
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  7. mike2k132

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    One could say its only 1.8 mil and tate only made the all rookie team. Pretty low bar for Tillman lol. Wake me when he used those trade exception
     
  8. DreamShook

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  9. Reeko

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    that’s nice

    his pockets better not be on life support the next time we’re a contender
     
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  10. Doctor Robert

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    While it paid off many times with "flexibility", I always thought Morey's biggest problem was the instability his ways created. I think it impacts free agent signing and also the mental health of the team. I don't care if you're rich or poor, not knowing where you're going live and work causes stress.
     
  11. Roomba

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    I have not been nice to Tilman as an owner but obviously if he starts doing good things I will be less critical.

    I think one thing he's done well (or the new front office has done well) is to get unhappy players to their preferred locations--but they wouldn't have been unhappy in the first place had he not pulled his luxury tax shenanigans.

    At the end of the day, I'd gladly eat crow and proclaim him the greatest owner in pro sports if the Rockets win a championship under him. That's our ultimate goal, after all.
     
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  12. NewAge

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    100%!!!
    Primitive business school mentality: "I have the papers that I negotiated with the guarantee date, I'll use all the time allowed for "flexibility"

    Completely oblivious to the complexities and nuances of real life and dealing with human beings...
     
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  13. prodigy08

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    Nowhere in the article mentioned that Tilman guaranteed Tate's contract using actual US dollars. For all we know, it could be payment in the form of Landry's coupons lol. Thanks for the idea @DreamShook, I couldn't have found a way to hate this article without your idea hahahaha
     
  14. D-rock

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    Nwaba also signed!!!!

     
  15. YaoMing#1

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    That’s speculation saying if Tilman had spent more those players wouldn’t have been unhappy in the first plays.

    I like Morey and he’s a wizard with the cap. With that said I put a little more of the disfunction on him that Tilman who’s only been owner for 4 seasons now and one of them was a strange bubble Year.

    Do some of you Guys not remember Morey making a mid season trade every year under Les to get under the tax?

    I give Tilman props for allowing Stone to do a real rebuild.

    Les never let us tank we lucked out with Harden but that was what it was just luck and timing.

    the Tilman hate is one of the funniest things I see on here very often.

    but then again I guess every fan base doesn’t like the owner if their not winning chips.

    Tilman is Fine in my book I like that he actually seems like he cares about the team sorta in a Mark Cuban way which I like but I get some might not.

    I also think Tilman is letting Stone run the show with minimal input other then normal signing off on contracts. Outside of Green I’m pretty sure Stone did his own thing with 16/23/24 picks.

    Stone has been pretty impressive so far imo even with the bad first year. KPJ picking up Tate and Martin jr T.I. go along with the sneaky good Wood signing the Harden trade and then thus draft.

    even coach Silas, he might not be the long term coach who knows but I do like him he’s very calm and always very positive and seem like just a really nice person. I really enjoy ppl like that in my personal life so I’m sure he’ll be great for the young players.

    Even the fact that all of our three biggest contract come off the books at the same time is nice. With that said I would love to get rid of Wall just so we can develop the young guys. Tilman do the unthinkable buy wall out. I think Gordon if healthy might have value his contract is not terrible plus his last year isn’t even guaranteed I think if said team doesn’t win the finals.

    but Tilman if you’re reading this show the nba your willing to buy a player out fully so he can go to whatever team he wants. That will get your in good grace with all Free agents and their agents.
     
  16. mike2k132

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    I stop reading when you said morey lucked up n harden lol, I'm sure he didn't use some analytics technique that might of told him this harden guy would be good given more useage
     
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    Learned to live with bosses. IDK with Tilman I think the best part would be not to include his children but that is wishful thinking.

    He made it clear that he plans just to do that, make it more his family accomplishment.
     
  18. Roomba

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    Yeah I think if Pat Fertitta wasn’t being shoved in our faces so much I wouldn’t be as annoyed. Now, I don’t know Patrick, and he may be an incredibly intelligent and talented prodigy. And I’m sure he’s a nice young dude, he comes across well in interviews. But the whole situation just stinks of nepotism..
     
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  19. NewAge

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    He did luck up in a sense that nobody knew he would be HISTORICALLy good. Everyone knew Harden would be better with higher usage, all the traditional media was in agreement, you didn't need Morey's junk science for that.

    My question is this: where was Morey's insight the previous year when he could have drafted Kawhi? Where was the junk science then?

    You have two "sliding doors" paths:

    A. The actual path, drafting Marcus Morris and then trading Lowry for the Steve Adams pick in order to get Harden.
    B. Drafting Kawhi and staying put with Lowry.

    Which one do you prefer? I for sure prefer B. I mean Lowry/Kawhi core has a ring, Harden doesn't...

    So in isolation the Harden transaction is a winner that Morey's claim to fame is based on. But you zoom out a year and the 2011+ 2012 work product for a GM is pretty mediocre: passing on Kawhi, the Royce White fiasco, Terrence Jones blah pick...

    Daryl Morey is a fraud, it's just that simple!
     
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  20. YaoMing#1

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    It was lucky that Harden was available after 3 seasons in the NBA just won 6th man and the team was coming off a finals appearance all because OKC wouldn’t give him the Max contract he wanted also it being over I think 5 million total not even annually.

    yes that was lucky he was available.

    of course Morey analytics showed he was capable of more if his usage went up but Morey has openly stated even he didn’t think Harden was going to be as good as he turned out.

    I stand by it being luck and great timing but I was still lucky/rare circumstance that the trade happened. Truthfully what team would have let Harden go after making the finals with him and all their three stars were 22 and under.
     
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