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[GOP GA] gone wild

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    if you say so
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Yes that is what I said.
     
  3. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Fair point, at the surface level, however...

    The complaint isn't about oversight. Oversight is, was, or used to be in place. The Secretary of state has oversight over all local election process and officials. The federal government used to have the power to review state gov election laws to ensure it doesn't discriminate against certain voters. That wasn't a problem in the past, in 2020 (unless you buy into the big lie) or today.

    The newly created problem is that legislators can take over the process and can remove election officials they do not like, installing officials that they like. They can do this before an election and after an election (meaning they can influence the result). I don't ever remember and I can't think of a good reason why, given the very obvious conflict of interest and danger (what I call legalizing stealing), of a federal government or state government, until now, having this type of power. That type of power is way too powerful and dangerous in my book, done at the federal (haven't been done AFAIK) or at the state level.
     
  4. Major

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    It happens all the time in banana republics.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We all know that the far right is trying to fix elections and are acting in an anti-Democratic fashion.

    That doesn't disturb me. I expect it from them. What disturbs me is that intelligent people, like @Os Trigonum don't seem bothered by it one bit.
     
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    Never let a chance to troll pass by.
     
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    If you say so
     
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    I am not trolling. It's a genuine expression.
     
  9. jiggyfly

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    I was not talking about you.

    The person you were talking to.
     
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  10. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Justice Department sues Georgia over voting rights law - ABC News (go.com)

    The Department of Justice is suing Georgia over its sweeping election law recently passed by Republicans, alleging it violates the federal Voting Rights Act by seeking to disenfranchise Black voters.

    "Our complaint alleges that recent changes to Georgia's election laws were enacted with the purpose of denying or abridging the right of Black Georgians to vote on account of their race or color, in violation of Section Two of the Voting Rights Act," Attorney General Merrick Garland said on Friday.

    Garland said the bill signed into law earlier this year by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp includes provisions that "make it harder for people to vote," and the complaint being filed by the department alleges the restrictions were passed "with the purpose of denying or abridging the right to vote on account of race or color."

    For months, President Joe Biden and other Democrats have been heavily critical of Georgia Republicans and Kemp for signing Georgia's voting bill into law, equating it to "Jim Crow-era" segregation laws while arguing it's premised on the lie that widespread fraud tainted the 2020 election.

    The department's lawsuit will be separate from seven other lawsuits that have been filed against the state of Georgia since the election bill was signed into law in March.

    Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clarke of the department's Civil Rights Division said the DOJ's suit will specifically challenge provisions of the law that she said aim to reduce access to absentee voting for Black voters that the department alleges will make it more likely they will have to stand in longer lines than white voters.

    "The changes to absentee voting were not made in a vacuum," Clarke said. "These changes come immediately after successful absentee voting in the 2020 election cycle, especially among Black voters. SB 202 seeks to halt and reverse this progress."

    Clarke said the law also "irrationally shortens" the period voters can request absentee ballots and the period during which election officials can mail them to voters in the 2020 election. The lawsuit will also challenge a provision from the law that places restrictions on the use of drop boxes, Clarke said.

    Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco has also issued a directive to all federal prosecutors and the FBI instructing them to prioritize investigations and prosecutions of individuals who have issued threats against elections officials, Garland said.

    In the memo, Monaco announced the department has launched a task force with members from DOJ's Criminal Division, Civil Rights Division, the National Security Division and the FBI to address what she describes as a "significant increase" in such threats in recent months.

    "A threat to any election official, worker, or volunteer is, at bottom, a threat to democracy," Monaco says in the memo. "We will promptly and vigorously prosecute offenders to protect the rights of American voters, to punish those who engage in this criminal behavior, and to send the unmistakable message that such conduct will not be tolerated."

    Garland also weighed in on recent Republican efforts to conduct so-called "audits" of the counts from the 2020 election, saying the department is developing guidance to ensure they comply with federal law. The department is also set to publish new guidance related to the upcoming congressional redistricting following the 2020 census, Garland said.

    Garland had signaled just last week that the department's Civil Rights Division would be taking a more aggressive stance against efforts to curb voting rights and voter access, saying in a speech that over the next 30 days he would seek to double the number of staff who handle voting rights protections.

    "We are scrutinizing new laws that seek to curb voter access, and where we see violations, we will not hesitate to act," Garland said. "We are also scrutinizing current laws and practices in order to determine whether they discriminate against Black voters and other voters of color."

    At least 15 GOP-led states have enacted legislation with restrictive voting provisions in the 2021 legislative session, according to the Brennan Center for Justice. Garland told reporters Friday that officials in the department's civil rights section are actively reviewing election laws across the country for potential violations of federal law and will not hesitate to bring similar action to what they are now bringing against Georgia.

    Kemp issued a statement following Garland's announcement accusing the Biden Administration of "weaponizing" the Justice Department "to carry out their far-left agenda that undermines election integrity and empowers federal government overreach in our democracy."

    "This lawsuit is born out of the lies and misinformation the Biden administration has pushed against Georgia’s Election Integrity Act from the start," Kemp said.

    ABC News asked White House press secretary Jen Psaki during the daily briefing whether there was any response to Kemp's claim Biden was "weaponizing" the Justice Department.

    “I would say, if you have such a fear of making it easier and more accessible for people to vote, then I would ask you what you're so afraid of,” Psaki said.

    Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger reacted to news of the lawsuit with a statement accusing Biden's DOJ of spreading "lies" about the state's election law.

    "It is no surprise that they would operationalize their lies with the full force of the federal government," Raffensperger said. "I look forward to meeting them, and beating them, in court."

    But NAACP President Derrick Johnson welcomed the DOJ's announcement, saying in a statement that it speaks to the "urgency" of the matter.

    "The recent Jim Crow election laws in Georgia are a blatant assault on the American people's most fundamental and sacred right, the right to vote," he said. "Today's announcement from the Attorney General speaks to the level of urgency that is needed to protect our fragile democracy and ensure that all voices are heard. We are in a race against time, and against those working to discount us."

    Bishop Reginald Jackson, the presiding prelate of the Sixth Episcopal District of the African Methodist Episcopal (AME), which includes over 500 churches in Georgia, also applauded the Justice Department on Friday.

    "For months, GA faith leaders have been pleading with the entire country to review the racist and unjust legislation that was steamrolled into our state," Jackson said in a statement. "We are grateful for the Justice Department’s decision."

    The Sixth District of the AME is a plaintiff in one of the seven other lawsuits filed against Georgia's law.

    In April, Jackson and other faith leaders representing over 1,000 churches called for a nationwide boycott of Home Depot for, in their view, standing on the sidelines in the state's voting rights battle.
     
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  11. SamFisher

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    The New Jim Crow begins its first phase of implementation :

    "Performance Review" of Fulton County Election officials in order to allow the Georgia state GOP to install their own clowns to run Fulton County elections and prevent blacks and other Atlanta residents from voting for Democrats.

    This is happening in plain sight - this was obvious when the bill was first proposed.
     
  12. VooDooPope

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    @HardenVolumeOne

    See the GQP supporting black Americans by working tirelessly to suppress their votes?
     
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    ive never had an issue with going out to vote, if they make new laws. Stop complaining and just do it. Whining and complaining wont get us anywhere. Liberals just wanna make it super easy because they think we are all gonna vote democrat no matter what
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Yep, just pay the poll tax and then vote. Just pass the tests given and then vote. Don't complain about the attempt to stop minorities from voting.

    Thank goodness the folks in the civil rights movement didn't have your attitude.
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    For those wondering what the republican law changes would do...

     
  16. Os Trigonum

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    bump for relevance
     
  17. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    11k voters disenfranchised in a primary. All this for basically solving 0 fraud. This is the GOP way forward.

    At least 11,000 Texas mail-in votes were rejected under new GOP voting rules | The Texas Tribune

    Thousands of Texans who attempted to vote by mail in the March primary were disenfranchised in the state's first election conducted under a new Republican voting law. The state’s largest counties saw a significant spike in the rates of rejected mail-in ballots, most because they did not meet the new, stricter ID requirements.

    Local ballot review boards met this week to finalize mail-in ballot rejections, throwing out 18,742 mail-in ballots in just 16 of the state’s 20 counties with the most registered voters. That includes Harris County, the state's largest county, where 6,919 ballots were scrapped — all but 31 of them because of the new ID requirements. The final statewide count for rejected ballots is still unknown; counties are still reporting numbers to the Texas secretary of state’s office.

    The rates of rejections range from 6% to nearly 22% in Bexar County, where almost 4,000 of the more than 18,000 people who returned mail-in ballots saw their votes discarded. In most cases, ballots were rejected for failing to comply with tighter voting rules enacted by Republicans last year that require voters to provide their driver’s license number or a partial Social Security number to vote by mail, according to rejection data collected by The Texas Tribune. A few counties’ rejection rates also included ballots that arrived past the voting deadline, but problems with the new ID requirements were the overwhelming cause for not accepting votes.

    The impact of the ID requirements was particularly pronounced in several larger counties, including Harris and Bexar. Votes lost to the ID rules accounted for 99.6% of rejections in Harris County, which reported an overall rejection rate of roughly 19% among ballots that were received in time. By contrast, the county's rejection rate in the 2018 primary was .3%.

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    Wait......I thought the GOP wasn't Big Government.
     
  19. jchu14

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    I wonder if this will backfire on the GOP. Prior to the 2020 election, more Republicans voted by mail than Democrats since older voters tend to skew Republican and Texas does not have no-excuse absentee ballot for those under 65yo.

    I can see how easy it is to miss filling out the ID number under the envelope flap. They picked a font that's way too small and too easy too miss.
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Kim

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    It's calculated, but risky for sure. The bet is that new mail-in voters lean Dem, even though this state is greater than 53% red imo. There was a large group of registered Republicans who voted against Trump, but then stayed red down ballot. So yes, it's possible that these changes can go the wrong way as intended. Both parties will have to really focus on the usual get out the vote, plus voting in person if you can, plus fighting the battleground of the non-monolith latino valley.
     

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