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Q: Bobcats expansion draft

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tuus, May 21, 2004.

  1. tuus

    tuus Member

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    well, when Charlotte chooses by example shaq and relases him (they may choose up to 29 players and all cant make to team), who pays salary what shaq (or any other player) must get because his multi year contract? he will be free agent and can sign new contract, but when such a player is Shawn Bradley, he will not get such sweet deal.
    hope you got my point
     
  2. across110thstreet

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    sorry bro you lost me

    first of all each team protects a certain number of players for the expansion draft, charlotte cannot draft whomever they choose:confused:
     
  3. Glish21

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    I would assume they would have to take the contract and they would have to pay them, but i have no idea why they would want to take a big contract and then get rid of the player.
     
  4. pacertom

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    they can draft an expensive player and cut him. They would be responsible for paying off the remainder of the contract, though the contract would not count against their cap.

    Their cap is 66% of the normal cap for the 1st year, and 75% for the second.

    They will need to pick a lot of cheap players. Few if any of their players will make over 4 million, becuase their 12 to 15 man roster must total something like 28 or 29 million at most.

    Each team protects 8 guys, not counting unrestricted free agents, and no team can lose more than one player. Charlotte will not pick a player from every team. They won't want to be paying that much dead money.

    I expect them to pick about 12 guys, draft 2 more, and then add a couple of cheap free agents to compete for 15 spots.
     
  5. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

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    They have to pick up at least 14 players in the expansion draft.
     
  6. tuus

    tuus Member

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    team, whom they pick, will compensate them with draft pick(s).
     
  7. tuus

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    but i do not think they will need lets say Jerome James.
     
  8. yaopao

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    What is the point of the Bobcats getting Shaq to cut him? Would LA give the 100 mill dollars under the table?
     
  9. tuus

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    it was only example to illustrate my point.
    and i got answer: if Bobcats took a player and later release him, they must pay him till the end of contract. like every team will do, when release his player.
    so - look Bobcats took only 14 players if really some teams will not compensate them with cash or draft picks to took some bad contract.
     
  10. GATER

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    Some of ya'all have this so screwed up, I'm not sure who to correct first.

    The Bobcats can select up to one (unprotected) player from each team for a maximum of 29. CHA will also be permitted to sign any restricted free agent it selects in the Expansion Draft using the same “Bird,” “Early Bird” or “Non-Bird” Exception that the player’s prior team would have had. Therefore, the $30m cap could be pretty soft if there are alot of Restricted FA's available.

    And further, any player under contract selected by the Bobcats will immediately be placed on the Bobcats roster. That does not mean they have to sign that player. The player can be waived and does not hit their cap....

    "'Compensation paid to a selected player under a contract protected for lack of skill will be excluded from Charlotte’s Team Salary if the player’s contract is terminated (via the waiver procedure) prior to the start of the 2004-05 season."

    http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/draft_central_expansion_rules_summary.html
     
  11. madmonkey37

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    ahh GATER to the rescue
     
  12. bamaslammer

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    I'd imagine they'd go with a lot of cheap players who will be gone in only a few short years, just as the other expansion clubs have done. The NBA should have never left Charlotte and we really, really don't need another team. It's kind of a screw-you to Shinn, because the Hornets will never make the playoffs in the West. Ever.
     
  13. jasongibson15

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    Who do you guys think the Rockets will leave exposed?

    I'm from Charlotte and Gater nailed the rules for the expansion draft.

    Even though the cap will be soft I think the Bobcats will stay pretty close to it. They will be playing in the old coliseum for the first season and it lacks the Luxury boxes and club seats that are so profitable for the teams.

    I think you could see the Bobcats taking some higher priced players because they will already have pre-arranged delas in place.

    The rumor heard the most is Phoenix will give Charlotte a first rounder (probally next years because I don't think they will give up the#7 pick in the draft for 5 or 6 million in salary cap room) for selecting either Jahidi White or Howard Eisley. They want the cap space to go after Kobe and Okur from the Pistons.

    Good Luck landing T-Mac you guys would be nasty and it will help the Bobcats not having to face him as much since the Majic are in our Division.
     
  14. GATER

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    I have a feeling the Rockets will leave Clarence Weatherspoon and Eric Piatkowski unprotected.

    PHX has definitely got its sights set on Kobe. Jahidi is serviceable for $5.9m with only one year left on his contract. He'd be the one to take as Eisley has 2 more seasons and a POpt for a third. Considering what passes for Centers in the EC, Jahidi is actually pretty decent.

    The Bobcats ought to be competitive. Most of the players' names I have seen tossed around are much better than what the Hornets had to choose from IMO.
     
  15. SmeggySmeg

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    when do the bobcats get full cap quota

    surely they want to position themselves over the next few years with young cheap talent and be ready with expiring contracts for when they have the full salary cap available to them
     
  16. jasongibson15

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    Full cap for year 3.

    The Cats should be better than the Hornets from the start although some of those players left a lasting impression on Charlotte. People just feel in love with that teams heart Dell, Curry , Muggsy Bogues, and even Kelly Tripuka were royalty in Charlotte.
     
  17. emjohn

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    One small thing that should be noted (not contradicting anything you said): any RFA selected by Charlotte becomes an unrestricted FA.

    Evan
     
  18. UTrocket

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    Are you telling me that the Cats could select Grant Hill and waive him and nothing would count against their cap? Or would this not be considered "lack of skill". I must be misreading your post.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    That's right, but they'd still have to pay Grant Hill at least $15 million, and perhaps 3 times that much. And, they can be compensated for that expense $3 million and draft picks. If you owned a business, would you do that?
     

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