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Why Daryl Morey and the NBA need to apologize to China

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by weopeo9744, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Bowing down before communists is fundamentally anti-American and is on par with doing so for Nazis. Communists deserve helicopter rides, not subservience.
     
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    If Yao Ming says California should separate from the USA - no one would demand he apologizes. You can't force Morey to Apologize. He didn't say anything racist. What's worse than what Morey said is China trying to get a man fired because they feel offended. Of course if someone said that in their country they would be killed.

    Morey has absolutely no reason to apologize. China has to accept that our culture is different than theirs. We don't get offended by their cultural differences (or shouldn't) and it should be vice versa.
     
  3. DonatelloLimestone

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    what an clown whose miss the whole point. He tries to compare disagreeing with geopolitics and a current government power with blatant racism and discrimination based on the shade of someones skin they are born with.

    This type of embarassing coorelaton gets spread around too much. IF you criticize or disagree the netanyahu govertnemnt, you might be antisemitic, or is it the same if you think Saudi's leadership is full of ****? Somehow thinking Xi is not a righteous actor makes you hate asia or china? OR thinking how they are using work camps for ughuirs makes you anti chinese?

    Sadly, this knd of mentality even seeps here. Some poeple along the same lime can't seperate being 'company men' and maybe tilman was right, everybody wants to be led. But people here pretend or get so sensitive snowflaky if you simply read back tilman's own quotes to them they say you must hate the rockets or this is too much negativity(on an internet message board no less) And some people ironically hate communist but are screaming in a north korea dear leader if someone doesn't do the right devotion during the anthem...

    free speech when you agree, free speech when you disagree. If you don't like it, maybe the real estate in china is cheaper and the basketball owners there will demand blind loyalty and shutu p and listen and you can fall right in line over there.

    94ers out
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  4. raining threes

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    There's no other side of the coin.

    The Chinese did one of the two things I listed.

    You're trying to deflect from the Chinese putting a plague on the entire world vs what happened in Iraq. Personally I didn't have a problem with being in Iraq because you didn't hear much from Iran when we had troops in Iraq. You know those peace loving people who chant death to Areicans in the streets and have no issues torchuring and beheading christians.

    All they understand is violence, we showed Iran what violence really looks like nextdoor in Iraq. Hence not hearing a peep from them. We should have set up a base on the Iran, Iraq border and stayed there, just to keep Iran in line.
     
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    Iraq was a failure. Millions of lives lost, both ours and theres. Trllions of dollars, and for what? They never said it was to keep iran at bay. The govt told us it was for WMDs and to topple Sadaam...oddly enough for north korea and Saudi, we somehow call them great leaders who love their country...its almost as if its based on economics and not some morality.

    And thats not an indicment on America'. Thats an indicment on the suits who are in power. Theres always a difference between populace and govertnment. No matter how you spin, in the last 8 years half the country disagreed with the the government.

    Now you have China.

    They are having literally conversion camps, forced abortions, so on on a populace based on their religion.

    They stifle any free speech, they have debt and money power all over so govertnemtns in africa, asia, south america, and sadly...even in america have very little leverage so much that a texan owner scrambled to accomodate when his own manager said something as simple as political view in good ol USA. Imagine that? Nah, its not that suprrisign sadly. Half our states have laws that make it illegal for free speech simply to boycot israel if you disagree peaceully...or how abotu the governtemnt both trump, obama, and then thirdly also bush all helped saudi in the 9/11 commission over its own citizens.

    You don't have to 'defend' iraq to call out China. We need beter leaders in both places who erve the people over themselvse.

    And what are you worried about with Iran as well? Is it the act of war that netanyahu promised they do in like 2009? Geopolitics ain't simple stuff, nation building hasn't done anything but cost money and lives for worse replacements in the modern era. The only winners are arms dealers with our tax paying contracts.

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    Almost like both China and Taliban aren't in some righteous fight and just looking out for their own group's power even if that means taliban bending over for these guys who are out here doing force conversions. Money talks, for us, them, etc.
     
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    Yep, that about sums it up.

    DD
     
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    So what your saying is china deliberately spread this virus? Has there been an OFFICIAL investigation rendering them guilty of this? What happened to innocent before proven guilty in the USA ? All of your allegations are simply speculation.
    I brought up Iraq as an example if US lying to the whole world about WMD so they can invade that country to not only kill their citizens and our OWN soldiers for nothing more than just oil. Nobody needed to die yet you are perfectly fine with that? So we can flex our military power? My son was sent to that region and almost died and came back with PTSD all because of a lie.
    According to Kelly and Laycock's book, the United States has invaded or fought in 84 of the 193 countries recognized by the United Nations and has been militarily involved with 191 of 193 – a staggering 98 percent.This is the good America you talk about?

    Before you criticize your neighbors backyard, make sure yours is in order.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    It's unfair to suggest they did it on purpose, it's much more likely that it happened as a result of their incompetence and they made it worse by trying to cover it up.
     
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    The sad part is if LeBron and the nba realized how black people are treated in China. They wouldn’t even want their support. Nigerians especially during the rise of COVID we’re experiencing racism like I haven’t ever seen. Their was forced segregation and the Chinese were blaming the African immigrants for COVID in their country. The videos were sad to watch
     
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    That wasn't you making that decision, and that wasn't us. Find a governtment selling an unjust self serving war? You can look around you. The populace suffers, the govertnemtn divides and conquers people into thining they are apart of the team so they can point another finger.

    You make good poitns of an unjust, costly, terrible war.
    And yet thats somehow a defense of a country that literally is doing forced conversions, abortions, and work camps based on religion? Not even going to go into labor practices, labor practices american companies lobbied and support. ....see its not about which team is in the right or 'judging a nature' ITs about calling it all out as a populace force and putting pressure and exposure on teh unjust actors. that isn't hard right

    that we can call out the saudis in yemen, israel in gaza, hamas in gaza, ccp in china, and so on in china, nad yes americans in iraq and wherever else. Don't be fooled by the names, its more of an indicment of MBS, Netanyahu, Xi, Trump/bush/obama rather than me and you in houston or wherver we are.
     
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    That assumes they'd care about things like that at all.

    Lebron and the NBA only care about their cash flow, they could watch China engage in genocide vs black people or anyone else and it wouldn't change their stance even slightly.
     
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    I think the whole deal.
    They were protesting mnorities having a raw deal over here, yet doing it with phones and nike companies taht lobbied in tpp to take advantage of bad labor practices to hurt miniorities including children over there.

    Once again, the government everywhere does the same thing. IF xi is attacked, hell say you're attackign all chinese poeple. If netanyahu is attacked, hell say you're attacking all jewish people, if trump is then all republican conservatives or something, if hilary is attacked then its against all women in power or something.

    It works. For them, yet just blurrys the actual criticism and deflects

    Lebron and Kerr got a lot flack, but we have to see how China has all this leverage all over teh world be it asia, africa, americas is they've consildated debt and power and leverage. So who was Lebron defending(as he mentioned but no one picks up) the guys ni his staff and small role players who go and get shoe deals a,ppearances, and consulting etc basically they don't have the same stability but in china they make their money. ITs one thing to hurt your own pocket, its another to impose it on people who you consider on your team and you play with at night. Likewise with Kerr, hes taking away money from his staff and roster and thats how China played it DOesn't excuse it, just paints a full picture.

    But, they have a crazy market everyone wants to tap into. Sadly the mentality or culture over there klls any dissent and support right off the bat.
     
  13. bongman

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    Yoy correct that it was not is but the govt just like in China
     
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    Like I said they either did it deliberately, or didn't share info so they could profit off of the disease. I'll let you make that call.

    Why won't the Chinese let the lab be examined by the WHO and CDC? Until then, yes they're guilty until proven innocent.
     
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    exactly, so thats why its fair ciritisim to go at the chinese govertnment in their handling of so many things. tHe people are fine. Likewise me and you had nthing to do with iraq, its the suits.

    and as the above poster mentioned. Its one thing to make a mistake, its another not to provide access to world investigators and bring everyone in the fold when trillions of dollars and millions of lives cost
     
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    'Helicopter rides' Really man. We should throw our adversaries to their death from helicopters? o_O China is pretty damn capitalist from all indications anyway (all our stuff is made there.)... that said, I support the rights of those in Hong Kong and Taiwan, but give me a break with that helicopter BS.
     
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    I never said anything about "adversaries", just communists.
     
  18. groovemachine

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    Let me guess, you get to decide who the communists are? Who's next when you run out of communists, the socialists?
     
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    They are one and the same.

    Typically they admit their crime, we did a good job eliminating the Nazis, we came up short when it comes to the commies.....but past failures can be corrected.
     
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    Oh lord, you sound like an extremist, why is this even being discussed in the GARM?
     
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