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Oakland Relocation

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Marshall Bryant, Jul 22, 2021.

  1. Deuce Rings

    Deuce Rings Contributing Member

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    A’s aren’t moving to Texas. But some food for thought for anyone thinking about San Antonio as Texas’ prime pro sports relocation destination, I might offer that ship has sailed and you’re thinking of the wrong Texas city. I think Austin’s growth and money have made that town the more attractive destination for any pro sports looking to expand/relocate to The Lone Star State. I wouldn’t be surprised if Austin is the next Vegas attracting pro sports franchises over the next decade. Only way I see San Antonio entering any such conversation is as a co-host city with Austin placing any potential stadium between the two markets
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Show your math, HD, and not that Enron math you were used to back in the day.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Soccer is awesome for Austin, the perfect sport and stadium and financials etc....

    The NFL or MLB are not coming to CenTex in our lifetimes. I can think of 5 huge reasons right off the top of my head.
     
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    I've noticed it's hard to do research on Google now as they twist your search terms to what they assume you mean.

    This was a wide topic of discussion around expansion.

    PS Ouch! Really?
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    I don't get how NL clubs are more valuable than AL clubs (given the Yankees and Sox), but I havent' thought about it much.

    You called me/us Bushneck Lackey ********ers so often it started to roll off the back. Sorry if I opened old wounds, wasn't the intention. We are friends again.

     
  6. Marshall Bryant

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    Forbes 2021 Value

    Team Pop/team AL/NL Forbes 21 Value
    NYY 11,750,000 AL $5,250,000,000
    LAD 9,400,000 NL $3,570,000,000
    BOS 8,300,000 AL $3,465,000,000
    CHC 4,900,000 NL $3,360,000,000
    SFG 4,400,000 NL $3,175,000,000
    NYM 11,750,000 NL $2,450,000,000
    STL 2,900,000 NL $2,245,000,000
    PHI 7,200,000 NL $2,050,000,000
    LAA 9,400,000 AL $2,025,000,000
    WSH 4,900,000 NL $1,925,000,000
    ATL 6,600,000 NL $1,875,000,000
    HOU 7,200,000 AL $1,870,000,000
    TEX 8,000,000 AL $1,785,000,000
    CHW 4,900,000 AL $1,685,000,000
    TOR 6,500,000 AL $1,675,000,000
    SEA 4,800,000 AL $1,630,000,000
    SDP 3,000,000 NL $1,500,000,000
    BAL 4,900,000 AL $1,430,000,000
    MIN 4,000,000 AL $1,325,000,000
    ARI 4,500,000 NL $1,320,000,000
    COL 3,500,000 NL $1,300,000,000
    PIT 2,600,000 NL $1,285,000,000
    DET 5,300,000 AL $1,260,000,000
    MIL 2,000,000 NL $1,220,000,000
    CLE 3,500,000 AL $1,160,000,000
    OAK 4,400,000 AL $1,125,000,000
    CIN 2,200,000 NL $1,085,000,000
    KCR 2,500,000 AL $1,060,000,000
    TBR 3,400,000 AL $1,055,000,000
    MIA 6,900,000 NL $990,000,000

    The difference is in the middle, not the top or bottom teams.
     
  7. H.D.

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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    They would have tons of fans especially if the locate the stadium between Austin and San Antonio. That being said, Austin would never build the stadium for them and San Antonio isn't all that desirable for whatever reason.

    I know with the NFL there tons of politics from the Cowboys since they have a huge fanbase in both cities. UT would also be pissed off but I'm not sure if that would sway the city .
     
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    I can see that being a better plan on paper than in reality. I personally avoid driving south on I 35 whenever possible and would be reluctant to do that for any type of mid week game after work. Austin FC is great for all of the reasons @Buck Turgidson mentioned. However, it was a fight to get Q2 Stadium built on top of a condemned, city-owned former chemical plant. I can't imagine there being any willingness to commit land and resources to another sports stadium.
     
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    It would require someone like Red McCombs to do push it through with private financing like COTA in a town outside of Austin. It's the only way it would happen.
     
  11. Marshall Bryant

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    UT OWNS AUSTIN. It wouldn't sway, it would DICTATE.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I just don't think in 2021 (as opposed to a 1996 article) that when an owner's franchise is valued, any stock is put into whether or not you're paying a DH x million dollars more than you'd pay a utility player or extra pitcher.

    Overall salary structure for a particular team is generally predictable and teams will historically stick to their budget in a typical year.
     
  13. Deuce Rings

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    “The Business Journals” disagree though they do list MLB as the most unlikely pro sports to come to Austin. But all the other major league sports see Austin as a sexy destination: https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/news/2015/04/09/market39.html
     
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    Certainly it is diminished; back then, the rich weren't handed more money by the taxpayers whenever they had a down day.
     
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  16. Deuce Rings

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    Not in any appreciable way.

    Scarcity (this is why values have exploded), Market Size, Stadium Deals and Fan Base dominate the valuation of teams. If a team wants to save a few million on a DH, it has that option. They don't have to pay one.
     
  19. Marshall Bryant

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    I just can't get my mind around anybody thinking Austin is an attractive location.
     
  20. TWS1986

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    I've always enjoyed Austin.
     
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