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Astros Get Graveman for Toro + Smith

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  1. The Drake

    The Drake Member

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    Thought this could use it's own thread?

    Astros get:
    Kendall Graveman
    Rafael Montero

    Mariners get:
    Abraham Toro
    Joe Smith

    Tags and others have it on Twitter
     
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  2. Bobby Jackson Rules

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    Splash?
     
    #2 Bobby Jackson Rules, Jul 27, 2021
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    Why does Seattle do this deal? Or am I too high on Graveman?
     
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    I'm a casual fan and not familiar with Graveman. Grade for this trade?
     
    #4 tehG l i d e, Jul 27, 2021
  5. Bobby Jackson Rules

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    Correa extention?
     
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    Graveman is a rental so I would rate this trade a B-. Another thing to think about is they shed some salary to make another trade and stay under the tax.
     
    #6 skenney1993, Jul 27, 2021
  7. The Drake

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    Great trade IMO

    Graveman has a sub-1 ERA in 33 innings this year. Not only does he immediately become the Astros second-best reliever, but this weakens Seattle too.

    Toro had some fun moments here, but with Bregman and Diaz coming back, he doesn't have much of a role, and I don't see him being pertinent to any long-term plans.

    Getting rid of Smith (and his contract) is clutch too.
     
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  8. J.R.

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    Where the **** is Toro going ;)
     
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    mlb tonight is basically saying seager is probably gone now and on the move, and toro is now their 3B going forward. buuuut at the same time saying if you're a mariner fan you're like wtf lol
     
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    Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Can’t think of any other reason to include Smith in the deal
     
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  11. tehG l i d e

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    Bye Allie LaForce
     
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    Gonna miss Toro like I missed Teoscar. Would feel better if 'we' had sent out Raley along with Toro so that Dusty isn't tempted to use him every f'ing tim.
     
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    welp....WE'RE GOING TO THE WORLD SERIES
     
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    I'll miss you Allie LaForce
     
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    Salary dumping Smith is interesting...more wiggle room under the tax.

    Also, Montero DFA’d
     
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    Man I'm really torn about giving up Toro for a reliever rental.
     
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    Great trade, IMO. But why would they want Joe Smith?
     
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    Mariners fans can't really gloat anymore about that comeback loss yesterday. I'll take fleecing them in a trade for losing one regular season game.
     
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    I like it. Toro is blocked by Bregman. Hopefully Perez can surpass what Toro has been. Graveman has been a stud and is exactly what we need.

    Also, by salary dumping Smith it makes me think we aren't going over the tax so no Scherzer, Bryant, etc...
     
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    Mariners fans are not happy; those replies
     
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