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Will Republicans lead an anti-vax movement?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Patiently waiting for you to grow some hair

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  2. Amiga

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    I don't doubt that. The politicians realize their political risk now and are trying to walk back. They either didn't realize or just plain don't care until it poses risk to their political career. Did they not consider risk to people and economy? Selfish bunch and/or idiots.
     
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    Right wing populism is a global menace. It appears that left wingers participating in that protest aren’t generally against vaccines (they want the vaccines to be mandatory); they are against requiring businesses to discriminate according to who has proof of vaccine.
     
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    Covid vaccine is one of the most tested vaccines in history. 2 of the top 5 expansive trials (for all drugs, not just vaccines) were Covid vaccines. And yet you say there wasn't enough testing? Seriously man, you really don't know what you are talking about. You're drinking antivaxx koolaid.
     
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    The Threat of an Unvaccinated South
    COVID-19 patients are once again filling up hospitals in the Deep South as leaders struggle to get constituents immunized.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ill-define-americas-covid-19-recovery/619525/

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    One reason public-health officials and local, state, and federal leaders have struggled to persuade the unvaccinated to take the leap is because the explanations people have for why they remain unvaccinated are so varied. “Low vaccine uptake is being driven by a confluence of factors that are being subsumed under the term hesitancy,” Henna Budhwani, a public-health professor at the University of Alabama at Birmingham who studies vaccine hesitancy, told me. Some people might be skeptical of the vaccines, and some people don’t want to discuss them with anyone—not even their doctor, she said. Meanwhile, she added, some people in rural locations may not have access to vaccination sites at times that work with their job, while “others feel that public health is telling them what to do, and because they feel that this messaging is promoting an infringement on their autonomy, they are responding with defiance.”

    And because of the various causes, attributing the low rates to one group is difficult. In a state like Alabama, for instance, roughly 30 percent of white people, 27 percent of Black people, and 22 percent of Hispanic residents are vaccinated. “Regardless of race, the rates are abysmal,” Budhwani said. As such, “we need to respectfully reach into communities,” she continued, and that means continuing to engage with churches and schools as well as leaning on peer-to-peer messaging. “People tend to respond better when hearing public-health messaging from near peers, so for example, when trying to engage adolescents in Alabama, we should co-create messaging with adolescents and then these same adolescents should be involved in the delivery of the messages that they helped to create.”
    more at the link

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    In Louisiana, Vaccine Misinformation Has Public Health Workers Feeling ‘Stuck’
    Facing deep mistrust stoked by rampant conspiracy theories, local health officials are fighting for influence when the only sure strategy for beating back the virus is getting more people vaccinated.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/25/us/politics/louisiana-covid-vaccine-misinformation.html

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    Louisiana ranks near the bottom in vaccination rates nationally, and cases are again multiplying, with the second-highest average daily case count per 100,000 people in the country.

    “We are unfortunately the leading edge of the Delta surge,” said Dr. Joseph Kanter, the state’s top health official. “We lost all the progress we had made.”

    The immediate crisis is confounding and demoralizing Dr. Whyte and other officials in Shreveport, where just over half the population is Black and nearly 40 percent is white, with a mix of moderate Democratic and far-right conservative politics.
    more at the link
     
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    I guess the messaging is bad. Out of touch lib media types are driving the effort after all... Will be rich to see how the condescension is blamed as reason for the ICU trip.

    Feelings were hurt. Mistakes were made. We want a side of Justice with our super sized Freeeeeeedoooommss!!!

    But how does that explain the drop-off between people who only have one vax vs those with the complete dosage?

    Supplies aren't limited anymore... Is it really the case where people didn't like the "really bad experience" then decided ****it I'm One n Done?
     
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    That pic is next level stupid.
     
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    See those waiving confederate flags, nazi flags and Trump flags.
     
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    @Roc Paint is not going to grow hair or height. You should grow up and leave the man alone.
     
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    The executive order also bans checking for vaccine status by any public or private entity that is receiving or will receive public funds including grants, loans, contracts, or other disbursements.

    So bars and restaurants cannot allow only vaccinated people or they risk getting their TABC license pulled. Sports teams cannot have any vaccine mandates for audience members since they most likely used some public funds for their arenas. Any companies that took PPP cannot check vaccine status.

    I also wonder if colleges and universities also cannot legally check for vaccination status now that the executive order is in place. Businesses that require state license like barbershop or daycare can also have their license pulled by the state if they want to only serve vaccinated patrons.
     
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    Completely insane.
     
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    Just an incredible disdain for "local control" that the Texas GOP has hammered for 10 years that they'll pay absolutely no electoral consequence for.

    Abbott 2022: I'll freeze you to death, scream at the wind, issue edicts that change on a whim, get your kids sick, fill up your hospitals and there's nothing you can do about it before I run for president in 2024!
     
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    Ignore his bullshit orders - old Ironsides has lost the plot.

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  18. superfob

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    If I read the order correctly, it also prevents checking for all vaccinations, not just covid-19. I can't wait for the smallpox comeback.

    Edit: I think it's worse than I thought.

    Basically he removed checking for ALL vaccine, quarantine as a measure to stop spread of ANY disease, and the ability for local governments to declare ANY disaster
     
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    Seriously? Goddamnit Abbott is a ****ing moron.
     
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