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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. DonatelloLimestone

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    The irony fo trump and his relationship with Epstein hilariously shut down dimwit jr Eric trump when he tweeted clinton with Epstein saying where theres smoke....You can't write up the irony and hypcrisy with Don Jr talking about Hunter while excusing their own hotel deals and more so ivanka and jared's blantanty self serving, her unrelated patents, him getting funding from hist terrible sixth ave investment.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/

    https://remember45.com/
     
  2. DonatelloLimestone

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    Mattis specifically referenced Trump and what he considered to be a failure of leadership:

    Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. …We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.

    Mattis also commented on Trump’s handling of ongoing protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death at the hands of police:

    At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society.

    Trump responded via tweet, calling Mattis “the world’s most overrated general.”

    …His primary strength was not military, but rather personal public relations. I gave him a new life, things to do, and battles to win, but he seldom “brought home the bacon”. I didn’t like his “leadership” style or much else about him, and many others agree. Glad he is gone!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020
     
  3. Roc Paint

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    You can tell that to the folks that are actually in Cell Bloc D
     
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    Mr. Joe old man Biden is talking loud and saying nothing
     
  7. DonatelloLimestone

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    100 percent agree.
    Its almost like when hilary tried to brand herself a 'policy wonk' because she was an uncharismatic speaker....guys there are places for that, its called advisors in the cabinet. President takes speakng, takes inspiration, takes a presence and a skll navigating through diverse points of view to unite or make the country work

    Sadly this binary option where we call out how ridiculous trump is and how blantantly he'll lie to anyone including his supporters tos ave himself for a trump first system...they will just all say but biden

    and to hear biden, who really just doesn't seem 'there' half the time, but more troubling is history of terrible votes from the TPP, the private prison empowerment or mass jail of american expieriment, the wars...almost never met one he didn't like in the senate, the slow evolution towards everyting including cannabis so much as this year. and their answer is only..but trump

    Winners in this are the polarized binary media and the millionaire pundits making dough off the outrage of the 'other', the political class to sustain their own positions and powers scaring their base with the other side

    losers...american people who consider themslevs americans, believe in our constitution, checks and balances and put country over party.
     
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    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/d...-an-f-while-biden-starts-with-a-c-11605819726

    Biden gets a C, hes had a long standing relationship with some lobbyist including his chief of staff being one...sadly that guy, on brand is the one who 'fought' for neera tanden
    -I think he deserves lower

    Trump got an F, the guy handed it out to friends and allies unfethered, many of them were caught abusing tax paying dollars, donor dollars, but not surprsingy the guy did it with his own charity, inagural committee...and of course, yes the 75 million electoin fraud fund americans donated to him....you can go see how much of that was spent, maybe around the same as the private indepednetn build a wall campaign

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...ampaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands

    -trumps justice department too;)
     
  9. Roc Paint

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    Trump never had a chance at the outset . Why do you think half of America still pissed off about the current situation? It doesn’t really matter to me because I know in my heart that both parties are full of ****
     
  11. DonatelloLimestone

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    100% agree, the media in msdnc and cnn were blantantly stupid. But trump would have a better chance if he himself also didn't lie and oversell almost everything. Trump was smart, used them for free airtime, they also marketed all their ratings off of outrage of him. Outrage sells, thats why trump always finds a 'caravan' when things are heating up, he knows fear sells, netanyahu knws fear sells, cnn/msnbc/fox news knows fear sells. So they made a story of everything he said, sometimes unwarranted, a lto of times the things he did were disturbing. can't imagine obama saying the stuff he did and being applauded or saying nah its ok or even chelasea, bush, or obama having their kids run unchecked half the country.

    Hes not a typical politican, hes a typical used car salesman

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    Perhaps you remember this claim, which, at the time, deeply offended official Washington,” Carlson said before going on to play a clip of Trump claiming that his inauguration drew the largest audience “ever.”

    “We’re not going to lie to you,” Carlson said. “That was untrue. The crowd at the 2017 inauguration was not the largest ever measured on the National Mall. Sorry, it wasn’t.”

    “Why did the president claim it was? Well, because that’s who he is,” the Fox News host continued. “Donald Trump is a salesman. He’s a talker. He’s a boaster, a booster, a compulsive self-promoter. At times, he’s a full-blown BS artist. If Trump hadn’t gotten rich in real estate, he could have made a fortune selling cars.”

    Trump has a history of lying, of deceiving, honestly you can go read his or ivankas own books to see their personal philosophies...its pretty blantant how they preach put yourself above everyone, lie cheat decieve no problem...so yea he lies a lot, to his followers, about promises, he is just a master showman and brander. He knows he can make headlines, repeat things until people who are casuals towards affairs believe him, and channel the outrage that is righteous towards a political class that hasn't served teh people or smartly done so in a long time.

    The problem is the execution. This guy had his son in law, someone who basically their background is payign 2 million to get into harvard where he was mediocre in college and hs. Then buying print media in Observer RIGHT before the internet boom. Buying a 6th ave high rise at the absolute peak right before the market crash....in fact he got bailed out before he was in the red for it...coincidentally right ater he had meetings in the middle east....thats the guy running literally half our stuff...because despite everything from the stock market to vaccines that likes to market 'he did' he delegates and hes just the salesman, not too new, but never seen a guy oversell and sadly never seen a populace worship to the point where they are still fighting for the guy despite video of him treating his followers like idiots. And Jared is the guy to solve this? Or Ivanka who runs half the other stuff when her background is work for her father, use his liscencing contract to also brand her as a lifestyle and just sell little thinks ironically most of her company is made in china...but don't worry, they have a secret plan they only know to fix it....lol can I sell those people a bridge?


    Problem is not that you're wrong that the media is biased, that the dems an really most incumbents have been pointing fingers and doing **** to sustain their own power, is that this guy who has a history of bullshitting is doing the same thing.

    Trump made a great promising pont when he was running about all the money hilary accepted from saudi for "womens empowerment" Saudi has always been a terrible marker and their lobbying arm is following the israeil lobbying arm to buy a lot of influence. IT works sadly, just like as ted cruz pointed out himself for years they've looked the other way on big companies.

    He also called out the 9/11 comission...something that only helps americasn understand an heal and only hurts saudi...its a document bush blocked, obama blocked, i thought we had a strong minded deflector on our hands or so he claimed...the tune changed when he became president. Saudi was his first trip. He kissed their ass as usual, refused to release the report, and also further more while screaming bring our troops home, sent MORE troops to help saudi and claimed they paid for it...

    Both parties are self sustaining institutions who want to keep power, you're right they are both total full of **** they don't stand for anything but their own power as we've seen. Sadly so does trump and his actions have shown it, even as an outsider, he picked up his coffers
    He lied about hte tax cuts telling his poor followers his friends are made at him, then at the rich people fundraiser he said i just made you guys a whole load of money you shoud thank me(you can find him pandering to anyone, which is typical politics right? but its also what he said he wasnt)

    Further more any true conservatie who believes in fiscal responsiblity should find him an abomination, anyone who believes in too mcuh central uncheccked power should go see how he refused checks and balances, even had his appointees change the FBI building reonvation which was going to see us tax payers get a lease from a private company just how Trump got a 99 year cheap lease on the post office building where govertnemnts like saudi and qatar began to book for 100s of thousands as soon as trump came in office. Or how he tried to use his properties for summits and telling his followers , its free!....nah the governemnt and tax payers would have to pay 10s of millions in untaxed upgrades to the property that he gets to keep...and you don't hve to report income on that, which hes really smart at

    So yea, he wasn't a hitler like the media claims. He got a terrible shape and outrage over every turn is all the reason not to take msnbc and cnn as serous critics. Likewise it was fawning and north korea worship and the trump flag sadly flies higher than the american flag under the guise 'of patriotism'

    I was open minded when he ran as a disruptor to break this mold of the party, but his actual track record adn actions(while he wasn't wrong on china, on the middle class disappearing, but as usual it was more talk and had no idea on the action, teh appointments, etc) basically showed him to be what he is, a reality tv star. Sad to see americans mean well and die on this hill...I say all that agreeing he didn't get a fair shake, teh media is terribl,e an biden is an utter joke...so is kamala if you actually pay attention to her record as a senator and AG.

    More sad to see american can't call em all out because they are just employees we should replace rather tahn worship. Goes for biden, goes for trump ggoes for kamala, goes for ivanka so on and so forth.

    Like i said, Americans deserve better...these politicians, dems/republicans...they aren't sending their best
    ;)

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    “Perception is more important than reality. If someone perceives something to be true, it is more important than if it is in fact true. This doesn't mean you should be duplicitous or deceitful, but don't go out of your way to correct a false assumption if it plays to your advantage.”

    ― Ivanka Trump, The Trump Card: Playing to Win in Work and Life"


    -this the one trump wanted to ALSO put head of world bank?[​IMG]
     
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    To another point, election security. Pelosi and the dems have been asking for hundreds of millions for years to update tech, then it became political. Once again, its not about trump being innocent, he himslef tried to muddy election integrity in 2016, he won and then he litearlly never brought it upa gain.
    I'm100 for election security updates, tech changes, constantly updates, americans should be on top of that. But about his wall, did you see the contractors he hired? what about for his audit...it wasn't just non usual deep state, it was literally first timers and thats big money to do incompetently. If you think trump wouldn't be screaming corrupt even with full election security, then you havent seen a history of a guy who will shout, scream, point fingers and cry anytime and be the biggest victim ever. So yea, you're right about the media, doesn't absolve or relieve trump of the evidence agaist him.

    And take it to dumb politicians, they even added a felony to bring water to someone waiting in line...thats sensible? Thats stupid. So yea, they all are a bunch of self serving idiots, or most of em are once they get churned in the system a little bit, makes checks and ablances and that precedent that much more important and you can go see how often

    not going to worry about his businesses right;)

    Sadly, its the same stupid mentality that thinks its ok for hunter to blantantly profit, dude can't even wait to sell his first time art till after his dads out of office?https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-inspectors-general-internal-watchdogs-fired-list/

    Like you said and I Agree...these party institutions arent in our constitiuion, in fact our founding father was precisely worried about them. 2ndly trump is the closest thing we've seen to king george demanding loyalty and unchecked power....and so called patriots cheered for it. The dems can be a-holes, teh media can be terrible, doesn't make it so we blindly root for the guy who is lying to our face over and over again and we know it.
     
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    I completely understand why militias have a concern about our government
     
  14. DonatelloLimestone

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    well the right to bear arms is in our constitiuion.

    but just like A DL, ,its not a bad thing to not have a bunch of idiots who dont know how to drive and give it to em. Just like voting id, don't let anyone do it, with god damn kiling guns...its alright to get a little training and license like a car, heck i'm even down to spend some of that wasteful hs education on proper civics, go volunteer in the voting booth, get credit, and have young tech savy minds to see the holes to keep america...improving...thats the point of democracy, not that his is perfect kiss your flag welcome to north korea, its that its for the people and by the people to continue to shape.

    but yes, the govertnment has had history of terrible inefficeint building, and more outrageous decisiosn that have hurt americans, klled americans, hid it, or abroad.

    aint ntohing wrong with the 2nd amednment, constitution is great...also nothing wrong with the first..including if someone wants to kneel. The most important time of free speech is to defend it when we don't agree. but its a bit odd for suits only use the constitiuion when it benefits them
     
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    You should seek some humanity and maybe it would make more sense to you.
     
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    There are reasons for concern about our government. I think most of the issues that have seen brought up by militias aren't those of most concern.
     
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    There is no way in hell this clown should even be allowed to run for president of a PTA most unpatriotic douchebag ever.
     
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    He should focus on selling steaks at The Sharper Image
     
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    No one with a brain should buy anything from this snake oil salesman.
     

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