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If you were the Rockets, what info would you leak?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tuk88, Jul 25, 2021.

  1. Tuk88

    Tuk88 Contributing Member

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    Imagine you're in the Rockets meeting room - there is no way you're not discussing what is leaked and what isn't as part of the draft preparation.

    If I wanted to pull off a trade similar to Atlanta trading the #3 for #5 with Dallas in 2018 for what became a #10 in 2019 (who the players ended up becoming is not the point of this), how would I stage that?

    If I had intel that the Cavs really want Green while we prefer Mobley, I would leak that we plan to take Green, thus compelling the Cavs to trade.
    If I had intel that the Cavs really want Mobley while we prefer Green, I would leak that we plan to take Mobley, thus compelling the Cavs to trade.

    If the Cavs knew the Rockets wanted one player and the Cavs preferred the other, then a trade is either less necessary or unnecessary.

    I personally noticed a shift in the media from the Rockets preferring Mobley to the Rockets preferring Green... if I were the Cavs and I preferred Mobley, then stand pat. If the Cavs preferred Green (just as the media is saying the Rockets prefer Cunningham), then I'm pursuing trade possibilities. Notice how most of the media looks at scenarios of Mobley playing in Cleveland and of Green playing in Houston. That's just what the Rockets want if they prefer Mobley.
     
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    When was the Rockets preferring Mobley ever a thing? Green has always been the frontrunner to go 2nd.
     
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    If the Cavs knew we wanted to take the same player as them, you'd have to tread those leaks carefully because in the Cavs' Front Office, they'd be questioning why we would willfully hand that player to them in a trade up.

    If you found out the Cavs were deadset on Mobley, the correct thing to do would be to leak that a team like OKC was also, and was willing to give up multiple future picks to come and get him. That entices the Cavs to give up a minimally protected first next year (as minimally as possible), and we slide back a slot and still get our guy.

    Not dissimilar to what is going on with Cade right now. That's why you have to draw the line somewhere on what you'd give up for him. You cannot say you want him at all costs. Secretly, Detroit could be liking Green more than Cade and could be just trying to extract max value out of the first pick. There's a (highly unlikely) scenario where they're taking Green all the way, and are just trying to get extra picks. Let it be known where your line in the sand is and do not cross it no matter what.

    The Rockets should be wanting to do the same thing with Cleveland. That's why it's still "up in the air" on who (or where) we're drafting.
     
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    If trading up for Cade is unrealistic and taking Green is the intention, then you absolutely give Cleveland every indication you either A) plan to take the guy they want (likely Mobley) or B) what @EddieWasSnubbed was saying — leak that another team is in the mix.

    A future first or a player like Okoro could be a realistic get to acquire the player we wanted all along.
     
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    That Cade doesn't want to play for Detroit, but doesn't want the public to know because he doesn't want to seem like a diva
     
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    That’s a dangerous game to play just to acquire garbage like Okoro.
     
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    Toronto allegedly wants Mobley too.
    Okoro needs time. He isn't garbage. I do prefer a future first over him though.
     
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    No it’s not. Worst case scenario: Cleveland doesn’t buy it, we stand pat at #2 and take the player we wanted all along (Green).

    And Okoro is 20 and a top 5 pick in last year’s draft.
     
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    Will Detroit figure that out?
     
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    Actually, worst case scenario is Cleveland does take and then takes the player we wanted.

    And just because someone else made a mistake drafting Okoro too high, it doesn’t make him more attractive to me.
     
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    Your logic makes no sense. The entire motivation behind a Houston/Cleveland swap is Houston leveraging the threat they might take Cleveland’s guy (Mobley). It would be grossly negligent of Stone and our front office to so badly misread this as a trade up attempt to get Green by Cleveland.

    Not happening.
     
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    You are expecting Cleveland to fall for the same thing that you say would be impossible for the Rockets to do.
     
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    The Rockets have all the leverage, it’s not the same thing. This shouldn’t require further explanation. You only make this play if you’re the Rockets if you know what Cleveland is going to do.
     
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    I wouldn’t leak anything it would be a waste of time.

    Cleveland is fine taking Green or Mobley, they have no reason to trade up. Just pick who you want.

    No need for the mental gymnastics.
     
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    That tilman is selling the team. Then perhaps players would want to play for us.
     
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    Yeah it was a dumb idea by me that I just typed without thinking at all haha
     
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    Yea its a subtle game, but us leaking that oladipo has first round pick offers to woj may not have been right. so if we do it, we better do it right knowing its a relationship league
     
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    You might be right ! Don't underestimate yourself.
     
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    Never, but...

    The way I remember it, Mobley was the presumptive #2 before the draft order was set. It seemed to go: Cade, Mobley, Green, Suggs, Kuminga. So once we got the 2nd pick, I saw a few mocks that had us taking Mobley because he was long considered the #2 guy. That has since changed to Green.

    I don't think Rockets have ever been linked to Mobley directly; it was just that he was the #2 guy and we had the #2 pick... so some mock drafters just made that connection.
     
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    Eric Gordon is on a new diet and in the best shape of his life

    *wink*
     

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