All of the players in the G-League were top level college players. Unlike in the NCAA where there are many players that will be accountants, insurance, car salesmen. So it stands to reason that better talent means a higher level of competition.
Crazy how simple logic goes out the window when people are trying hard to bash prospects they don’t like. This thread is embarrassing.
Horizons are broadened here, both ways, through dialogue and varying opinions/angles of perspective......That's part of what we do here, everyday...right?!? The draft is approaching and I'm back in life as well as here....getting my sea legs back. C'mon, Brother...
Look Dude, If you still can't comprehend what I'm saying, and you've read the whole thread....that's on you!
This is where we disagree. I dont think Mobley or Suggs have a chance to be top 5 players in the league. I do think Green has the ability to become a top 5 player. Mobley/Suggs are fine players though. The question is do you take a chance on hitting on a top 5 guy or go for guys that will probably be top 25-30 type guys? I'm a risk taker by nature and you're a guy who likes to lower the amount of risks. There's nothing wrong with your way of thinking. But teams that win championships usually have top 5 players and they usualy get top 5 players by taking risks in the draft in order to acquire them. See: Giannis.
Kind of coming down a little tough on me, as I can see others are riling you up. Anyway, I'm not saying anything against sharing opinions, just that people will go a long way trying to convince someone about this or that, and the "someone" just digs in his heels and pushes back. Whether or not it broadens horizons, well, yeah, it can help sometimes. In any case I'm glad to finally be a player in the draft. I read two days ago where Morey is entertaining ideas of trading away their first rounder. Yep, that's Morey. He could ruin a draft like rain ruins a beach day.
Just to be clear.... There are certain confinements that are inherent to the NCAA game that when lifted...provide incredible upside to the best of the best. Again, never said and would never say the players weren't better across the board in the GLeague. Although the talent level is rising and will continue to exponentially. I swear some of you folks are always looking for a chance to pile on without thinking.
Great post. Morey would rather get proven talent for his contending team vs taking chances on late round draft picks.
I've got nothing but love and respect for you, my friend. I tried to tone it down, but guess I took some liberties anyway. M, you have my sincere apology.
This…. We are trying nitpick with the #2 pick. Of course competition is going to be one of many factors.
Heres teh thing though. EVery single Gleague player could play D1 hoops, in fact most would probably start or play a major role. On the other side, majority of NCaa players would not be able to play in the gleague. The gleague, you will be surroudned 1-15 with guys who have experience, ahve professional dreams and a mindset. This isn't college experiences or going to class and a party next, your'e playing with and against adults who have done that already and this is the next progression to see if they can squeeze in the league and get this "These measures are detailed in the 2019-2020 version of the Division I Manual under Bylaw 17.1.7.1, which states: “A student-athlete’s participation in countable athletically related activities shall be limited to a maximum of four hours per day and 20 hours per week.” You play more nba like games, pace. You won't have rest during a zone defense. And for those who say theres no defense in the gleague? I'me noet sure what they are watching. Its fast paced and lke the nba ts not a defense emphasized style, but the players are a step away from their dreams and go all out all the time. Likewise with summer league, people are fighitng for a roster spot, they play hard all the time. I think thats a narrative/myth Its the difference between a professional mindset, goals, culture and not to mention the gleague elite specifically has brian shaw, nba coaches, trainers to all give them advice. They will get the closest thing to a rookie year before their rookie years, with veterans, access to questiosn that may help accelerate the typical rookie pitfalls. Jalen Green is going to be the first to really go through the program, lets see how it goes. I think it looks promising. SO many nba players come about and joke about even big time college programs weight specific trainign different from the nba, limited access to coaching OR "As Lin explained, the bubble atmosphere means all the players — from longtime journeymen to 18-year-olds who opted for the G League instead of a year in college — are constantly bumping into each other. Which means he's constantly getting a glimpse into how hard everyone else is working. "People are hungry," he said. "You see people taking care of their bodies, watching film, getting in the ice bath, doing pool recovery. Because you see all the teams, you see all the players. It’s a single site, so there’s only one pool and everyone’s using it. All the ice baths are set up around the pools too. You walk into the cafeteria and you see people all along the couches on the walk there watching film. I said this the other day, I was like, 'No one comes to the G League without passion. Everyone who is here has passion.'" or nah, i'd rather goto college to play with jimmy the accountant and limit training with coaches to 20 hours a week...
D, it's all cool. I can see how people jump on a simple opinion and that's what makes me tired. Isn't it fun though to have a horse in the race? Now, will we finish like Seabiscuit or will we get "Mushed", losing a sure thing ("it's a lock, he can't lose"; "come on, Kryptonite! come on, Kryptonite!"; "Mush bet the horse?")
Good deal. Yeah, after all these years, to finally be a major player in the draft again.....with all the options that go along with it....and rebuilding. Contending is the ultimate, but oh how I do love this...It's been a looooong time. Christmas day...err, I mean the draft is only five days away! (with rumors swirling all the time)
I'm not as polarized as some people here. I'm leaning for Green. I'm a believer in the gleague elite program which is specifically developed to accelerate the prep for an elite rookie to the nba speicifically with nba rules, nba coaching, style. That said, its the first year of the program so I am not going to write fof Mobley or Suggs for taking the 'traditional' route. THe only issue is that you hope they can be better than in college or that the zone and style lmited their opportunities. I can imagine suggs being better in the open court, but we wont really know. Mobley has all the tools, but have to see his aggression and vision and awareness to put it together Nothing is difinitive in my book for me so I'll probably be happy with mobley or Green both. So far I think stone has earned some leeaway in the draft with the guy he got last year, although they speak more for finding gems with later picks than a no 2
This is always a discussion everytime a college football team looks like they will go undefeated for the season. This undefeated college team can beat the worst NFL team. The wise individuals point out that the best college teams may have 5 or 6 potential NFL players on their roster.......the NFL team has 53 pros on their roster. Worse NFL team beats best college team. That leads us to NCAA to G-league to NBA competition Undefeated Gonzaga brings us Suggs/Timme/Kispert. Would they beat the worse NBA (the 17-win Houston Rockets) team? The answer is no!!!! If the Rockets are not in tank mode. NBA players shoot about 60% from 3 in practice. If the college team plays zone defense; the Rockets would light them up with Eric Gordon, KMjr, Armoni Brooks, Wood, Olynyk, House, Khyri Thomas, Augustin. Because the college teams lack the prominent 3-pt shooters.... the Rockets would play a zone defense keying on those few shooters. Holding Gonzaga to about 26 points. G-league is just a watered down version of the NBA. Zone defense is a way to cover up the weakest defensive players on the court. Allows help defenders to be near by or close. You don't get the true sense of a players true value on defense. Flaws remain hidden, until the player gets to the NBA or G-league level. College 3-pt line is a shorter distance like the ladies tee spot in golf. Because most college players are weaker teens or young developing 20-year olds. If the College level game was better than G-league, then the NBA wouldn't even bother with the G-league.
