1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Would you want C - Webb ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by xiki, May 20, 2004.

  1. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,833
    Likes Received:
    3,180
    If Rox could get C-Webb for MoT and Cato (roughly same total contracts for next two years, third year C-Webb more), would you

    -- be happy?
    --feel too much was given?
    --worry his knee would never be good enough?

    Or ?

    I, for one, unless I could be assured the knee would get much better (no assurances there) would say, 'too much was given'.
     
  2. yipengzhao

    yipengzhao Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2002
    Messages:
    3,615
    Likes Received:
    6
    i was thinking this the whole fourth quarter of last nights game.

    the fact of the matter is that Webber has never played a full season in the NBA, and only a couple of seasons of more than 75 games.

    but the fact also is that if he could play sixty games at 90% of what he was a year ago, then MoT + Cato for him would be a wonderful deal that makes us instant contenders.

    If I knew he could play 75 games at 90% of what he was a year ago, I would trade them Francis. But I'm pretty sure his injuries won't allow him to do that.
     
  3. pradaxpimp

    pradaxpimp Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2002
    Messages:
    5,025
    Likes Received:
    71
    C-webb would be good if he was cheaper and less contract length.

    That said, it would be nice to have tyra banks sitting courtside
     
  4. Texas Stoke

    Texas Stoke Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    18
    They would probably want the Rockets trade exception too. I'd take the risk. Just think, it'd be tough to double team Yao down low with Webber in the high post.
     
  5. GoatBoy

    GoatBoy Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2002
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    0
    Considering how the Kings played without him this season, AND those two key shots he missed in the last minute or so of the game last night, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him in a different uniform next season.

    I think he would be an improvement, but I'd hate to give up Cato's D. Tough call. I think I'd do it.
     
  6. shawn786

    shawn786 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    5,015
    Likes Received:
    6
    for Mo T and Cato id pull the trigger, i mean i kno this guy is injured old ect. but whens he's on his game its over. Plus the guy can pass him, it would be good to have a guy who knos how to pass it into Yao
     
  7. the futants

    the futants Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    5,157
    Likes Received:
    175
  8. pasox2

    pasox2 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2001
    Messages:
    4,251
    Likes Received:
    47
    I wonder if Seattle will pick him up instead of SAR.
     
  9. JPM0016

    JPM0016 Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    4,470
    Likes Received:
    43
    don't see the fascination with a guy set to be 32 years old next season, who will miss 20 to 30 games as he has done so the last 4 years.

    PASS
     
  10. Toast

    Toast Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2001
    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    10
    Dude's been missing more & more time each season.
     
  11. room4rentsf

    room4rentsf Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2003
    Messages:
    2,409
    Likes Received:
    5
    I dont know.. his luck cant be that bad thats hes injured almost all his career.

    If we had Cwebb playing next to Yao that would be the strongest 1/2 punch in the NBA (PF/C combo) .. because they compliment each others games. If we had Cwebb I wouldnt miss MoT's scoring cuz we get that from Webb and he gets more rebounds. Hopefully pick up Egriffin to backup Cwebb and Cato keeps to backing up Yao and shaing some minutes at PF (depending on matchup).. thats a pretty big front line.

    J
     
  12. JPM0016

    JPM0016 Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    4,470
    Likes Received:
    43
    what would we do the other 30 games plus that Webber would miss? :confused:
     
  13. thumbs

    thumbs Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2002
    Messages:
    10,225
    Likes Received:
    237
    Where's the Heck No! choice? Even with the Rockets' team doctors approval, I would consider trading either Mo T or Cato for him -- but not both. Webber is a better player but not when he's sitting on the bench hurt -- ergo, not worth a huge gamble.
     
  14. madmonkey37

    madmonkey37 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2003
    Messages:
    2,499
    Likes Received:
    52
    Its a huge gamble and I wouldnt be mad if it happened, but I wouldnt particularly want it. Webber has a pretty good high post game and the offense could be run through him at times instead of yao. If he becomes healthy again then it would be a great trade, but if not he is still a decent player. THe worst part would be his hugemongous contract.
     
  15. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,833
    Likes Received:
    3,180
    What is crazy is that this is not a way out there kind of question. I mean, if Webber were healthy OR cheaper then it's a no-brainer. Since he's neither healthy nor cheap, but is, at least a little bit, intriguing, then what, maybe?
     
  16. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,833
    Likes Received:
    3,180
    This Kings' writer doesn't think Webber is going anywhere:

    http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/9358204p-10282633c.html

    Mark Kreidler: Fire sale by Kings? Not time to panic
    By Mark Kreidler -- Bee Sports Columnist
    Published 2:15 am PDT Thursday, May 20, 2004
    It's not too late to get into a Fantasy Sports League. Sign up here.

    MINNEAPOLIS - Right, let's take a deep cleansing breath and see if there's any perspective to be had. The Kings:
    (a) Lost their putative best player for 58 games because of a serious knee injury and a ludicrous self-inflicted suspension;

    (b) Fell from the first seed in the Western Conference to the fourth while trying to get that rehabbing player back into the mix;

    (c) Entered the playoffs without the services of the reigning NBA Sixth Man of the Year;

    (d) Discovered during the playoffs that their top scorer had suddenly misplaced the broad side of his barn; and

    (e) Took the Minnesota Timberwolves to the final tick of the seventh game of the conference semifinal before finally bowing out.

    That's probably failure. It's a word, anyway - failure - that you're sure to be hearing around the campus today, as a rabid nation searches for a way to describe the feeling of seeing the Kings bounced from the postseason yet again short of their stated goal, reasonable or not.

    But as for a wholesale detonation of the roster, the always-popular Apocalypse Option that surfaces at times like these, not so fast. This isn't a salvage job. Nor should it be.

    When Chris Webber's three-pointer went inside the rim before finally hopping back out in the final second of game time here Wednesday night, one of the first emotions was to wonder whether you had finally seen the end of the line with this bunch. People talk about windows closing at this time of year. Vlade Divac, in particular, speaks of the uncertainties of the future. It goes like that.

    But this 83-80 defeat, tough as it was for Sacramento to absorb, really felt nothing like the end of nature, nor anything close to it. What it felt like, mostly, was the visiting team losing to the home team in Game 7 of a playoff, which only happens about 83 percent of the time in NBA history.

    And on so many levels, most of the talk about blowing the Kings' roster apart is so much hot air. It not only makes no sense, it's wholly implausible on any grand level.

    Take this for the good news or the bad, depending upon your mood today: The team you'll see trot onto the floor next fall isn't going to look just entirely different from the one that just got its heart ripped out for the third consecutive spring.

    Let's talk about the "core," since it's such a lively term lately. The core of the Kings is remarkably easy to identify, and there isn't one person included in it who's going anywhere.

    Mike Bibby, Peja Stojakovic and Brad Miller can all be argued as players who may still be on the upsides of their careers. Bobby Jackson is 30. Darius Songaila is 26. Doug Christie, who was the best player on the floor for Sacramento in the most important game of the season, clearly has plenty left in the tank.

    And the whole Webber situation is really worth discussing if only because of the constant chatter around him. Assume for a moment that Webber really does want out of Sacramento. How many NBA teams can you name who are eager to jump into a league-maximum contract (Webber has nearly $80 million remaining over four years) for a player who, by his own admission, still hasn't fully recovered from knee surgery?

    (While we're on the subject: Webber was one of the only front-line players who showed up in Game 7. He wasn't brilliant, but he mattered from start to heartbreaking finish. You sure he's the problem here?)

    You look to operations president Geoff Petrie in times like these, and his low profile is telling. When Webber threatened not to report when the Kings first traded for him, Petrie quietly bided his time. When Webber threatened to leave a few years later as a free agent, Petrie quietly bided his time.

    If Webber at some point decides to make public a desire to strongarm the team into a trade, Petrie undoubtedly will mumble something about the Kings always being open to good deals - and then he'll resume quietly biding his time. He'd rather have a healthy Webber on the floor before he makes any decision that's going to so impact the franchise's future, especially with Divac either stepping out of the picture or agreeing to a bench role.

    Not that the Kings have nothing to ponder, of course. They've got to figure out what it is about the playoffs that causes Stojakovic to disappear. They've got to reckon with the reality of Jackson's injury and determine whether he'll ever be that brilliant sixth man he was before.

    There are new levels of Stojakovic's game to pursue, new ways to work Miller and Bibby together to torture opponents. The Kings went 55-27 and to Game 7 of the second round with no Jackson and half a Webber and a receding Divac. Not sure that constitutes panic time in the hinterlands.
     
  17. Relativist

    Relativist Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2000
    Messages:
    3,517
    Likes Received:
    241
    Absolutely. Webber injured is still one of the better PFs in the league. And other than an all-around game, he has two skills we could really use in our starting PF: range and passing.
     
  18. ivanyy2000

    ivanyy2000 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    3,153
    Likes Received:
    126
    80 Million for 4 years left for his contract, don't you need think twice acquiring him?
     
  19. alley-oop

    alley-oop Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2001
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd do it; you think about it MoT and Cato are our two most injury prone players. they are also onesided players. They are considerd over paid also.
    If it would come down we would be contenders even if kept the same backcourt or if we went for the TMac factor. We still would have Teaspoon and would prob. resign Padget. Hopefully Badman will be on the roster, so to me its worth the risk/reward.
     
  20. fa7999

    fa7999 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,050
    Likes Received:
    0
    Did he also brick two key free throws in the 4th quarter last night? Let alone that missed layup from point blank with 1 min left in the game.
     

Share This Page