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KPJ is considerably better than Green and he's a more well rounded player, if he's not worth building around, Green REALLY isn't.

 

I agree. There is a higher chance that Green will be a poor defender than Mobley will be a poor offensive player.

 

I respect being realistic about everything but as fans I believe that we should also be positive about our current situation. Why? Because I believe we will do things the right way this time in this new era. Y'all stop being negative man dang.

 

Klay yes but Curry can get easily pushed around and is their obvious centerpiece.

 

Giannis has a unique skillset - no argument.... but all the rabble was about how size no longer matters (see 'smallball') and that big guys were 'unplayable in the playoffs...'
Are there instances that go both the one way and the other? sure! Thats why i felt it was stupid to make such blanket statements...
A lot of folks like to make broad general declarations and proclaim that they know 'just what to do' regarding roster building... my point is that its ALL situational and such broad declarations are short sighted...

 

Yes. Giannis is essentially a very tall point forward ala Toni Kukoc. But he's just alot more physical

 

That was never the argument,

The argument was that unskilled big men who can’t guard the perimeter at all were unplayable and you would be better going small than with an unskilled big who can’t guard the perimeter.

 

I think one of the reasons why people fear building around a big man who isn't a ball dominant wing or guard is that in the modern NBA they have difficulty getting the ball in their hands. Hence why guys like Towns and AD had many games where they just disappear on offense because their guards can't give them the ball.

When you have a superstar guard or wing who can control who gets the ball, it's much easier for them to dominate possessions and therefore much more difficult for them to become mere background noise for the game.

That's why Giannis' wing and ball handling skills are important. It's harder for him to become that background noise like it is with a more tradional big like Embid, Towns or AD. Tradional big men are too dependent on competent guards/ball handlers giving them the ball in the right spots.

 

The goal should be to build the best team possible. The bucks are a solid team, but ultimately they won only because of injuries, not because they built the best team. Yes luck is important, but you shouldn’t look at a lucky team and say “ya that’s the model we need to follow”.

 

I'm ready for the draft to happen so we can be done with this

 

You keep using this weird, incorrect logic.....

KPJ has played a full two seasons in the NBA...... but yet you constantly compare that to someone who has never played in the NBA..... Even when you bring up KPJ G League time..... he's still been in the NBA for a year and played ~50 NBA games.

Is KPJ considerably better than Green..... ? KPJ only averages 16PPG and 3.8 AST (3.5 TO). Seems pretty possible that Green can be better with two years of NBA experience under his belt. Seems pretty possible that Green will have a better career than KPJ......

 

This.

 

unskilled anybody shouldnt be on the floor... you shouldnt throw some stiff out there just because he makes a nice tip of the pyramid in the team photo - lol.... but to say size doesnt matter anymore (and yes, i had numerous exchanges with posters who made this declaration) is just short sighted (pun intended)... lol
The Lakers made adjustments and beat our 'small ball lineup' with size at the rim...
Point being, that the ever changing dynamics simply dictate that you should find a more mobile big... not that size no longer matters...

and id still have that bulky big on the bench for situational needs...

 

We saw them play in the same league against the same caliber of competition a few months ago and Green wasn't good enough to hold his shoes, didn't belong on the same court with him.

Now sure, KPJ is a year and a half older than Green, so feel free to make excuses for why Green wasn't any good, but you have to acknowledge the truth.

Right now KPJ is a lot better than Green and it's not close. You bring up KPJ's NBA numbers to knock him, but Green barely did that in the G league..... and he sure as hell didn't have a 50/10 game and isn't capable of it.

Now both are likely to improve, but with KPJ being so far ahead, it's unlikely Green bridges that gap any time soon, if ever.

 

are you even sure we have proper coaching and environment to develop this guy?

 

LOL. Hyperbole noted. The fact you have to use such exgaggeration speaks volume of your bias.

LOL. More hyperbole noted. Somehow Green is still a top 4 pick despite "wasnt any good"..... Either you are wrong or everyone else is wrong.....

LOL. Further hyperbole noted.

It's almost like one has more NBA experience. Crazy.

 

we better or else KPJ will be a lost cause

 

I think with an owner more willing to spend we could have had a more flexible roster in 2019. We had to make a decision under our constraints. With Westbrook onboard no options were going to be great, especially with financial considerations.

 

i agree that Frittata's cheapness certainly drastically limited our options... and it seemed we playing catchup trying to 'figure it out' all season... the whole season was all just stupidness beginning to end imo... limited options and trying to figure it out as you go - is not a good combo...