Rockets talked to Indiana about 13# swap

That just ruined Jones and Mobley's careers. If you didn't want Green before you certainly should now. DD misses on everything

 

Trading our 23rd and 24th first-round picks plus Gordon for Indiana's 13th draft pick already seems crazy to me. But on top of that, trading that 13th pick and our draft pick (second overall) to move up a spot is the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. WTF? None of the GMs in the League would be that stupid, and I don't think Stone is.
If Detroit accepts our second overall pick, their protected pick from 2022 and maybe the Bucks pick from 2023, great. Any additional cost does not work, I stay in second place and select the best player available.

 

Only Swaggy is That Desperate for Cade Cunningham. He is a bandwagon fan too.

He would trade half the Team for Cade Cunningham.

Trade Christian Wood, KJ Martin Jr., Jaesean Tate, 2nd Pick, 23,24 Own Detroit 1st Rd Pick

Swaggy being Red Sox fan, James Harden only fan, jumped on the Nets Bandwagon.
Came back to Rockets when it was Lottery Time.

 

Just Select Jalen Green with 2nd Pick

Select Forwards that are 6'9, 7'0 wingspan that can play defense on guards and rebound, shot block.

The Rockets have so many holes at Forwards and no young backup Point Guard.

2 Big Centers that have skills, shoot 3s and can defend Guards on switches.

 

I honestly do not understand all these reports that the Rockets would throw the house out of the window to move up a spot, unless it is part of a strategy.
Receiving their own protected 2022 pick is very important to the Pistons, if you add to that the 2023 Bucks pick ... plus this year's second overall pick makes the offer more than generous.
The Pistons will hardly get a better offer without breaking out of the top three positions in the draft, and that would mean losing Cade, Green and Mobley.

 

DD is late to the party, doesn't count.

He was pro Green and Cade prior to this change of heart.

 

If Ego/Late FP ---> #13, then #13+#2 ---> #1
Would do. The selling point to Detroit, is hey look at the history of the #13, can find some real gems.


History of the Number 13 - Not always an unlucky number

Year Player School/Country – Team

2019 Tyler Herro, Kentucky – Miami HEAT
2018 Jerome Robinson, Boston College – Los Angeles Clippers
2017 Donovan Mitchell, Louisville – Denver Nuggets
2016 Georgios Papagiannis, Greece – Phoenix Suns
2015 Devin Booker, Kentucky – Phoenix Suns
2014 Zach LaVine, UCLA – Minnesota Timberwolves
2013 Kelly Olynyk, Gonzaga – Dallas Mavericks
2012 Kendall Marshall, UNC – Phoenix Suns
2011 Markieff Morris, Kansas – Phoenix Suns
2010 Ed Davis, UNC – Toronto Raptors

2000’s

2009 Tyler Hansbrough, UNC – Indiana Pacers
2008 Brandon Rush, Kansas – Portland Trail Blazers
2007 Julian Wright, Kansas – New Orleans Hornets
2006 Thabo Sefolosha, Switzerland – Philadelphia 76ers
2005 Sean May, North Carolina – Charlotte Bobcats
2004 Sebastian Telfair, Lincoln HS (New York) – Portland Trail Blazers
2003 Marcus Banks, UNLV – Memphis Grizzlies
2002 Marcus Haislip, Tennessee – Milwaukee Bucks
2001 Richard Jefferson, Arizona – Houston Rockets
2000 Courtney Alexander, Fresno State – Orlando Magic

1990’s

1999 Corey Maggette, Duke – Seattle Supersonics
1998 Keon Clark, UNLV – Orlando Magic
1997 Derek Anderson, Kentucky – Cleveland Cavaliers
1996 Kobe Bryant, Lower Merion HS (Pa.) – Charlotte Hornets
1995 Corliss Williamson, Arkansas – Sacramento Kings
1994 Jalen Rose, Michigan – Denver Nuggets
1993 Terry Dehere, Seton Hall – L.A. Clippers
1992 Bryant Stith, Virginia – Denver Nuggets
1991 Dale Davis, Clemson – Indiana Pacers
1990 Loy Vaught, Michigan – L.A. Clippers

 

Tilly's still paying him so...

 

Trading down to 3rd makes more sense than trading up.

But would rather stay at 2, trade up from 23 back in lottery, if possible.

Decisions, decisions.

 

Look up the history of the 18th pick, if you really want to be depressed.

We narrowly avoided picking there!

 

You don't win with lots of draft picks you win by trading draft picks for players that are proven.

If you have a team FULL of draft picks that you took, when there is a 50% or more bust rate, you probably aren't winning.

DD

 

This IS usually true!

 

There needs to be a combination of draft picks, trades, fa's. Let's draft Green, the team is likely to suck again next year and draft a big. Then you have a young group of say Green, KPJ, drafted big. Then trade draft picks and signing fa's.

I also would like Stone to trade up into the top 10-15 and take a chance on hitting on another draft pick.

 

What if you had 30 draft picks?

 

This is dumb.

 

Iko: But what about potentially trading one of these picks? There was a report last week about a theoretical deal of Eric Gordon plus one of those selections for 13. Is this a draft to move up or even out if you’re Houston with Nos. 23 and 24?

Vecenie: I’m a bit skeptical that the Rockets would get legitimate value like that for Gordon, given that he turns 33 on Christmas and has played 63 games in the past two years. He still has two guaranteed years left on his contract at a pretty hefty number near $38 million. Weird things happen in the NBA, though.

If they wanted to move Gordon, maybe Houston could take back an additional vet at a similar price for a single season, as opposed to just seeing someone take Gordon into cap space or a trade exception. For instance, maybe Dallas sees Gordon as a better fit than Josh Richardson because he’s more of a secondary creator with size who could play next to Luka Doncic, and would be willing to take Gordon and No. 24 for Richardson and Tyrell Terry, the No. 31 pick in last year’s draft who had a bit of a tough rookie season? That would satisfy an objective of getting an interesting young player still (even if I don’t think Terry’s value is quite equivalent to the No. 24 pick), while also offloading a year of Gordon’s deal and creating future financial flexibility? Again, though, such a move would require Dallas to be particularly interested in Gordon.

I think it’s going to be tough for Houston to package both of those picks to move up, if only because four of the six picks ahead of their spot are owned by Oklahoma City and New York. That reduces the potential marketplace. I’m skeptical Washington would want 23 and 24 for 15, and I don’t think the Warriors would be interested in such a deal at 14, either. There is a case to move out of the draft if certain international players decide to pull out of it, and thus reduce stash options. Maybe move 24 for a future first-rounder from someone if a team is in love with a particular prospect still available at No. 24? Depending on who is on the board, such a move could make some sense.

 

Charlotte worked out some dudes (forgot their names) who should be available in the #23-#24 range. Maybe their pick can be had.

 

GSW and PHX say hello.

Need bit of both.

 

Right, OKC is missing the boat I think, you draft SGA then you package 4 1st rounders for a superstar and go from there, you CAN end up with too many picks. Not that the rockets are in that boat yet