KOC - "Rockets really want Cade"

The #2 picks in the past 20 years:

2000 Swift -- bust
2001 Chandler -- solid role player
2002 Jay Williams -- bust
2003 Milicic -- bust
2004 Okafor -- OK role player
2005 Marvin Williams -- OK role player
2006 Aldridge -- 2nd tier superstar
2007 Durant -- 1st tier superstar
2008 Beasley -- OK role player
2009 Thabeet -- bust
2010 Turner -- below average player
2011 Derrick Williams -- bust
2012 MKG -- bust
2013 Oladipo -- 3rd tier star at best
2014 Parker -- below average player
2015 Russell -- 3rd tier star at best
2016 Ingram -- 2nd or 3rd tier star
2017 Ball -- OK role player
2018 Bagley -- not impressive but still has potential
2019 Morant -- superstar potential

I don't include 2020 Wiseman -- too early to tell, doesn't look like a franchise type player so far

3 superstars (if you include Morant)
3 3rd tier stars
6 OK role players (if you include Bagley)
2 below average players
6 straight up busts

 

So only a 20% chance at landing a legitimately worthwhile player (IMO) over the last 20 years (Durant, Aldridge, Morant, Ingram)

This is why if we were to get the opportunity to trade the pick for a young star (let's say one of Ingram, MPJ, SGA became available) you win in most cases.

 

Green will fit in well with this list a few years from now as the curse continues.

 

Lol it was always between Mobley and Green

 

Next to KD? That's high but I admire your faith in him. Mobley will fit in perfectly with Stromile Swift if we pick him

 

I could see Green being Oladipo with no D.

 

To be fair, he was always incredibly high on Giannis (tried to trade up for him) and Jonas Valenciunas (turned out to be okay). He also wanted Brandon Roy, but unfortunately was not able to work out an agreement to move up.

 

Gang Green

fade for Cade

 

Good call. I do remember him traveling overseas to see Giannis play.

A shame he didn't give up another first rounder to somebody drafting before Milwaukee at #16 (or did he offer as much as he could)?

He did know Giannis was going to be All That AND a Bag of Fritos.

Yes, you're right, I forgot that one.

 

Beasley was a bust. Derrick Williams was better than him.

 

I’ve always felt that Tilman/Stone/Silas will f**** this up somehow.

 

It might be true. It's kind of subjective. Both guys turned out to be way worse than projected.

 

I’m 50/50 on Green and Suggs. Has Beal had a bigger impact on winning than a Lowry or Billups? And I have more confidence in Suggs reaching the heights of the latter than Green scoring 30 ppg.

Obviously Green has more “upside.”

 

Mobley Tribe

Kuminga Klub

 

Obviously it's Mobley Mob and Kuminga Klan... wait, not sure about the second one.

 

Fantastic comparison except that Oladipo helps rebound and doesn’t start jogging down the court every time one of his teammates shoots the ball. Other than those additional Green negatives the comparison is spot on.

 

Both Klan and Mob are not PC.

That said, our society has taken PC to ridiculous lengths.

 

he also nearly grabbed dame lillard as well

 

Come on. Mobley Moiety and Kuminga Coterie.

It's not that hard.