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Texas GOP and Voter Suppression

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MystikArkitect, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
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    Your post is not factual. Democrats did not toss or change ballots in 2020. There is zero evidence of any wide spread fraud from either party.
     
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  2. JuanValdez

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    That's totally mostly paranoid.

    Democrats don't like this pandemic any more than anyone else, but want a higher priority placed on minimizing morbidity and mortality than do conservatives. Democratic politicians might see an advantage to come from the pandemic to drive changes to make it easier for people to vote. Democratic politicians may benefit but I have a hard time criticizing efforts to make it easier for people to vote. Voting is our right and it should be as widely accessible as possible. If Democrats benefit, it's because they are more popular with more people. The desire for power and corruption might be more easily found in a party that doesn't want to make it easier for all citizens to vote.

    Nobody wants dead people to vote. As for illegals, there's ~12 million people who, regardless of how they got here, are living as de facto Americans -- been here forever, have families, churches, jobs, pay taxes, everything. I do want them to be eventually be able to vote (though Democrats more widely have different opinions on that). That would probably benefit Democrats given the way Republicans are always pushing them away. But Republicans could win a good portion of that voting bloc, which tends to be more conservative than most minorities, if they wanted to try.

    Left unsaid here is the assumption that mail-in voting is corruptible. Republicans seem to assume it is, but never bother to prove it. Many states rely heavily on mail-in and have safeguards to protect it from manipulation. I don't know if the Texas system is up to snuff. But if it isn't, we should be looking at best practices from the states that do it well instead of just minimizing access.
     
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  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    With respect to mail in voting, we had a number of mailings from the Trump campaign encouraging us to vote by mail in Florida and that it's safe to vote by mail as well as a couple of knocks on the door from Trump volunteers also encouraging mail in voting.
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  4. vlaurelio

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    well they lost so it ain't safe and secure
     
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  5. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Is that why the some 50% of Republican are against covid vaccination and probably some 80% are against vaccination outreach program?
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    His harden dick sucking posts make a lot more sense
     
  7. HardenVolumeOne

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    Are you for or against “FORCED” vaccinations
     
  8. Rileydog

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    oh crap, I missed where vaccinations are being forced. Link?
     
  9. HardenVolumeOne

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    this pandemic helped the Democrats get rid of trump. They had no one to beat him if this pandemic never happened

    mans the myth that their only 12 million illegals in this country is a lie. I would estimate their are close to 25 undocumented people in country and with the border currently being WIDE OPEN. That number will probably continue to rise
     
  10. Rileydog

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    incidentally, how do you feel about speed limits? Or requirement of liability insurance for drivers? Maybe the government shouldn’t FORCE those things.

    I mean sure, maybe we hurt people around us by our driving. But GODDAMIT, free will!!! and government shouldn’t tell us what to do. Just let people make their own choices, even if it harms people around them.

    No FORCED speed limits, or liability insurance.

    No FORCED vaccinations (still waiting on that link showing it’s being forced). My body, I get to decide what happens to my body! (Aw crap, that’s not so good for the Republican position on abortion).

    And heck, they require other vaccinations for school…NO FORCING THOSE VACCINATIONS EITHER!!!

    FREEDOM!!!!!!
     
  11. Rileydog

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    are you available to serve in public office or help with immigration policy since you have a better estimate? And can you enlighten us with the basis of this estimate? I really like reading and learning and would appreciate it.
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    Pandemic was a gift to Trump. If he would have taken the challenge head on and built a coherent federal response, his re-election would have been a foregone conclusion. It would have been FDR-like. It'd be better than being a wartime president because he could the protector of the nation without destroying some other country. But he's a selfish dumbass narcissist, so he buried his head in the sand and told everyone is was make-believe and let a half-million people die. Just about any other person would have done a better job with the Covid response than Trump did and every other mistake they could make would have been forgiven. The pandemic didn't cost Trump his job; his psychological dysfunction did, despite being handed a gift on a silver platter.

    Regarding illegals, doesn't matter if the number is 12 million, 25, or 25 million, keeping them in a perpetual second-class status is not sustainable, desirable, or just. Throwing them out is unrealistic. But I'm happy to vote in favor of real solutions if Republicans ever become interested in offering any.
     
  13. Amiga

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    We don't have that here. Vaccination is by choice.

    And by choice, some 50% of Republicans are against covid vaccination, and probably some 80% are against vaccination outreach.

    Since you believe DEM wants to extend the pandemic so they can have mail-ballots for millions of illegal, why are DEM much more supportive of covid vaccination and outreach? Do you actually believe more people with covid vaccination would extend the pandemic?
     
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    trump was detering them from entering, and punishing businesses for hiring them. Which led to more jobs in construction for black men
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You're not wrong on this. Trump would have won in a landslide if he was capable of showing compassion, encouraged behavior to slow the spread, been honest and been humble regarding COVID. Unfortunately for him, those character traits are foreign to him.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    If you cannot win . . .cheat
    If you still cannot win while cheating . . . . Change the rules
    It you still cannot win . . . .Change what it means to win
    - Texas Republican politicks

    Rocket River
     
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  17. Rocket River

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    Define FORCED
    because
    as far as I remember there have been forced vaccinations
    Kids cannot get into school without their Vax Card

    This is nothing new

    Also . . If you think ONE SIDE WANTS POWER and the OTHER SIDE DOESN'T
    You are very NAIVE!

    THEY ALL WANT POWER!!!!!!

    Rocket River
     
  18. edwardc

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    Every 45 supporter when the facts that the election wasn't stolen.
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  19. CCorn

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    Link?
     
  20. Rashmon

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    From the mojomein files...
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