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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Are all three unvaccinated? Seems that's the only way they could be considered certifiable experts.
     
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    How is Fox News not heavily fined for having these opinions which cause public harm?
     
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    That's what will happen until we get more vaccinations
     
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    Devin Nunes is at it again.
     
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    I can't believe there isn't more censorship of Fox News. what the hell is Biden doing these days? eating ice cream while Rome burns
     
  7. B-Bob

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    Yeah, there's a lot of humor to be had in a "news network" airing whole segments refuting scientific data and broad consensus medical advice on how to best achieve personal immunity versus a virus that has killed 600,000 Americans and 338 of them just yesterday.

    "Just another point of view" should also work really well for things like traffic safety. I think I'll drive on the wrong side of the road all day today. BRB with updates! LOL!
     
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    This Doctor was convicted of medial fraud about 10yrs ago. The only reason he's not in prison right now is because he decided to take the plea bargain..when the jury was out deliberating. I wouldn't trust a word he says.
     
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    Memories... "it is being contained... do you not believe its being contained?"

     
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    This is absolutely crazy.
    Where are the parents? Parents unions should start suing the health department ASAP.
     
  12. malakas

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    Yes.
    Almost 1 million new appointments the very next day after the Macron announcement.
    Highly successfully measures already just from this.
    Lol that's what you get from trying to deny the French from their Cafe.
    We should do the same and take even harder measures like France.

    I take a lot of pleasure the last week in watching my antivaxers neighbours complaining about the extra cost and inconvenience that being antisocial assholes gets them.

    Test costs, unable to enter a bar or club , being segregated in separate places.

    I can't wait for public transportation to hopefully be completely barred from them and for winter to come.
    Let them sit outside in the cold when they go dining LMAO
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    The right to be gaslit shouldn't be criticied or held accountable...it should be cherished as FREEEEDOOOMMMM!



    Then they sing a different tune during civil courts
     
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    Sadly a lot of parents are the one's pushing TN state government to stop doing vaccine outreach.

    Things have gotten been so politicized here in the US and with our federal system it was bound to happen that vaccinations would be very uneven in the US and we would have another wave of infections.
     
  15. Os Trigonum

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    " ‘They’re Killing People’? Biden Isn’t Quite Right, but He’s Not Wrong":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/16/opinion/biden-facebook-covid-vaccine.html


    ‘They’re Killing People’? Biden Isn’t Quite Right, but He’s Not Wrong.
    July 16, 2021
    By Kara Swisher

    It was a stunning thing to say, even if it is in many ways true.

    “They’re killing people,” President Biden said loudly enough to be heard under the roar of his Marine One helicopter idling on the South Lawn of the White House on Friday.

    He was talking not about terrorists or leaders of rogue nations or even gun manufacturers. He was talking Silicon Valley tech moguls, most specifically people like Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg, the top two leaders of Facebook, and their platform’s role in allowing dangerous misinformation about the Covid-19 vaccines to spread far and wide.

    “The only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated, and that’s — they’re killing people,” he said when asked to send a message to social media platforms amid a surge of infections in areas where people are refusing the shots.

    This message has clearly been coordinated as tensions have increased between the Biden administration and Facebook particularly. That had been signaled earlier in the week in a much less stark way by Jen Psaki, Mr. Biden’s press secretary, and Surgeon General Vivek Murthy. Ms. Psaki pointed to a public health crisis as the reason to pressure social media companies, which also faced difficultly trying to balance concerns about protecting speech with the danger of some misinformation.

    And in an interview with me two weeks ago, Mr. Biden’s chief of staff, Ron Klain, also seemed to be laying the groundwork for putting the blame on Facebook for the administration not reaching its promised goal of 70 percent vaccinated by July 4: “Facebook itself has built a number of tools to help people find vaccines and so on and so forth. But I’ve told Mark Zuckerberg directly that when we gather groups of people who are not vaccinated and we ask them, why aren’t you vaccinated, and they tell us things that are wrong, tell us things that are untrue, and we ask them where they’ve heard that, the most common answer is Facebook.”

    As you might imagine, Facebook did not agree with this characterization.

    “We will not be distracted by accusations which aren’t supported by the facts,” a company spokesman said in a statement. “The fact is that more than two billion people have viewed authoritative information about Covid-19 and vaccines on Facebook, which is more than any other place on the internet. More than 3.3 million Americans have also used our vaccine finder tool to find out where and how to get a vaccine. The facts show that Facebook is helping save lives. Period.”

    Period? Hardly. More like a semicolon, if I had to pick a punctuation.

    The truth is that Facebook serves as a gateway to both, presenting clearly solid information about Covid, as well as a place where an enormous flood of lies about it has overwhelmed the same zone — and for a much longer time.

    Back in May of last year, for example, as noted in The New York Times, there was “Plandemic.” That is a 26-minute video alleging that a secret group of powerful people were using the virus and the upcoming vaccines to make money and consolidate control over the world.

    “Plandemic,” The Times reported, “went online on May 4 when its maker, Mikki Willis, a little-known film producer, posted it to Facebook, YouTube, Vimeo and a separate website set up to share the video. For three days, it gathered steam across Facebook pages dedicated to conspiracy theories and the anti-vaccine movement, most of which linked to the video hosted on YouTube. Then it tipped into the mainstream and exploded. Just over a week after ‘Plandemic’ was released, it had been viewed more than eight million times on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and had generated countless other posts.”

    That was just at the start, as good and bad information raced against each other throughout the year, with some of the bad information having come from the occupant of the White House at the time, Donald Trump. While it is certainly not Facebook’s fault that Mr. Trump chose to muse about how the virus was going to go away just like that, or rail about not wearing masks, or talk about injecting yourself with bleach to become immune, the company and others tolerated such nonsense from him for far too long. They tossed him off only after he used their tools to help incite the assault on the Capitol, and it was — as always — too little, too late and too, well, lame.

    In this era, the media driver’s seat is controlled here and worldwide by Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, which makes them an easy target for the Biden administration. While one could just as easily also cast aspersions — I did and will again — at the blatantly false pandemic jeremiads on Fox News at the beginning of the crisis (it’s not as bad as the flu!), in the middle (no masks!) and in the end (endless rage against vaccines or the mere suggestion of vaccine requirements).

    You could also blame individuals themselves for believing in lies and not doing due diligence and checking their facts. After all, deciding to forgo a vaccine is a personal choice, even if it is an unfortunate one.

    But the ability to resist social media juggernauts pales in comparison to the tremendous power of these platforms to amplify bad information. Attempting to stop falsehoods by claiming to offer good information is like using a single sandbag to hold back an impossibly fetid ocean. It’s like that when it comes to a range of once-anodyne, now divisive issues, from election integrity to critical race theory to whatever, keeping this country in a constant state of twitchy confusion.

    Is Facebook killing people, then, since it provided the invention that allows all this to happen? Not exactly. But it reminds me of the famous quotation that “a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes,” which is — ironically — misattributed to Mark Twain (it is considered to actually be a version of a line first written by Jonathan Swift).

    Wherever it came from it remains even more prescient, except now lies travel much faster— thanks to Facebook.​
     
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    This was just posted on the nextdoor app for our local area...

    How much do you want the person that posted this still has a trump bumpersticker on her car...
     
  18. Commodore

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    Not sure what "gotcha" you think you came up with. That was in March... and its a novel virus that is mutating. You know, you are really bad at this...
     
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