I am ready to embrace Green if he becomes a Rocket. But I just LMAO because it is the Green Gang that have set Green up to fail. Green Gang have already guaranteed scoring titles and averages of +25. Green Gang have assured us that Green will become a great player, because of his interviews. His ... interviews. They've determined that Green has the killer instinct + the skill + the athleticism to improve his passing, rebounding, getting to FT line AND become a "good" defender. Not to mention Green has been forged in fire due to playing against grown ass men instead of the dregs littering the NCAA. The same NCAA that will field the most draft prospects in this draft and every draft in NBA history. Extrapolating the grown ass men principle further, then it is the foreign leagues that should have the very best prospects then the G League, then college, then HS. I'm glad no one told Lebron, KG, Kobe and Moses this. Good thing Jalen is a self professed ALPHA amirite?
Medicine and surgical techniques has advanced quite a bit since Ralph's days. So has weight training and diet.
Why do people feel the need to take such extreme positions for two talents that are a toss-up in terms of who becomes a better player. It's not a "mistake" to take either one, it's a calculated gamble at the end of the day.
Those averages of 25+ are if he played in college. Dude was a 30 ppg scorer in high school. He went to a tougher league than NCAA thats why his scoring dropped from 30 to 18. If he went to Duke or w/e he would average 25+ easy. Nobody here said Green would win scoring titles and average 25 in the NBA immediately. Thats just a strawman argument you invented. At the end of the day the draft is deep AF I'd be happy if we take either one although I prefer Green. I'd even be ok trading down if we get a multitude of picks in return cuz so many talents look intruiging in the late lotto like Giddey, Sengun, Kai Jones, Boughknight etc. The only scenario I'd be pissed is if we took Suggs straight up at 2.
I totally respect your opinions and enjoy the back and forth with you. I could be wrong on Green but he's the most athletically skilled guy in this draft and I would hate it if Stone passed on him if Cade wasn't there. Keon Johnson is the best pure athlete in this draft. IMHO.
Stop. You are not just being hyperbolic, you are being ridiculous. Green will take a few years to figure it out, NBA is not just about scoring in a vacuum. Allow this kid to grow into his game without the crazy proclamations. And the scoring titles and inane averages were not made up by me, that is an outright lie.
1: He plays NOTHING like McLemore. 2: Defense can be developed. A lot of the stuff you said about defense are the SAME THINGS that were said about Lamelo. 3: Here we go with the, “winner” crap again. Winning in college means NOTHING in the league. 4: Green played well against much tougher competition that Suggs
Thank you for this @Deckard! Ralph looked absolutely sculpted and thicc so even back then it WAS possible for a stick to gain muscle. It was the leg injuries that did him in, not his thinness.
Yet Ellis was much better offensively and on the lighter side. I would bet that their careers follow a close path even though they're totally different players.
I don’t, I believe it’s likely he’ll average about 10 ppg or so his first year until he matures into an NBA body, but year 3… look out. He has ALL the skills of a perennial all star guard.
His ppg would likely depend a lot on if Wood is still on the team and how many games Wall sits/injured.
So the premise was "if he is a failure, this is how his failure will manifest". If he does fail, it makes very little difference to me how it occurs. A busted draft pick is a busted draft pick. If he's a bust for the Rockets I'll be sad. If he's a bust for someone else, I'll be smug. If it makes you happier to imagine him failing by turning into a shoe-gazing introvert, you're welcome to it. I'm just indicating how it appears that, if he were to fail, how I see that failure would happen. I'm not particularly invested in it coming to pass in any form. And I'm not assigning any value judgements to any specific form of failure, as though one particular form of being a busted draft pick is better than another.
So much this. I have a slight prefefence for Green, but if it's Mobley on draft night, I'll be nearly every bit as excited. These are two talented players with room to grow. It's crazy to me how quickly getting the No. 2 pick turmed all Rockets fans against each other in a matter of days. And we're still nearly three weeks from the draft.
yes btw , why also not trade away KPJ ?....cant trust a man with so much resemblance to russel westbrick
