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Jalen Green should be the pick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. JW86

    JW86 Member

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    Funny that I started a thread about the consideration of the next draft in choosing who to pick now and everyone said pick best player available. I remain in the corner of picking with at least the future draft in mind, especially when we can get into top 3/4 again even if necessary to give up future picks. I agree with you and leaning towards Green. More bigs next year and Mobley has serious bust potential.
     
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    You also dont know what a 21 year old Mobley will do with money.
     
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  3. JayZ750

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    no… you think we think this is the exception. Literally no one has said “omg!! Jalen Green is the first player that has had consistently strongly positive article with first hand knowledge written about him!!!”

    I’m not sure why our keep implying this?

    I have no idea how you could t understand the analogy. Best we not continue discussing this then. It was as simple and straightforward an analogy as possible.

    he got money already. Which is different from the college players. He’s played against more gifted players than the college players.

    again… this is another example of living in reverse world. First part being Green having consistently positive articles with first hand knowledge about his mental attitude and approach being a bad thing while Mobley having virtually none of hay being a good thing.

    and now question how he’ll respond when he gets money and goes against more talented players… when of him and Mobley he’s the one who’s done that… not Mobley.

    So we should just completely ignore what people with first hand knowledge of his approach say about it? Lol.
     
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  4. finsraider

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    PG: KPJ
    SG: Green
    SF: Tate
    PF: KJM
    C: Wood

    Still plenty of losing as not all of these guys will develop and we won't have much depth, but it WILL be a ton of fun.

    My hope is there is some way to trade Wall. We need to let these guys spread their wings.
     
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  5. JayGoogle

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    I think you should be cautious instead of just buying it completely? Guys are always hyped up in the top 3. I think it's rare that a fanbase isn't hyped about the player they are drafting.

    Like all this talk about his work ethic and desire to be the best, that's well and good, but that doesn't mean it translates to the NBA. Lots of guys get into the NBA, reach a certain level of success, and become content. Some guys get content the moment they make it to the NBA...this is true in every sport too, but Green I think might not know just how hard he will have to work to be everything he wants to be...and when that humbling comes will he react by being content or will he strive to get better? No one knows that.

    Everyone in the top 3 has a lot of hype behind them though, everyone always thinks the pick will work out in the end. I think there's a lot of hyperbole surrounding Green like...oh he worked out with Curry. Ok? NBA players work out with NBA players all the time, I don't see that as being a big deal.

    I'd just be cautious of taking all that stuff to heart. It's nice to hear but I hope the Rockets sit down, interview them, and determine the drive there and I hope they make a decision based on the skills they think will translate and if they believe a player will actually improve.
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    I am not the one claiming I do know based on articles and workout videos.

    What's your point?
     
  7. Rudyc281

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    Will he (green) measure well - actually 6’6

    Can he (green) really thrive playing off-ball

    Does he actually understand and is he aware of all the little nuances of the game.

    IQ and awareness
     
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    for one… I’m not sure why people keep saying this??

    again… no one that I’ve seen has said “here’s a bunch of great reports about him, they must all be true 1,000%!!!”

    instead… people are just point out the obvious. All first hand accounts of him so far are exceeding positive regarding his approach. Take it for what it’s worth.

    for two… the idea that all first hand accounts of all top lotto picks are always exceedingly positive is simply not true. There are many, especially when done by those with vested interest in “the game” that are just upfront and honest.

    here’s Tom Creens analysis of Edward’s last year: https://omny.fm/shows/duncd-on-bask...il-game-6-mia-offseason-outlook-evan-mobley-s

    it’s definitely positive, but also realistic.

    but absolutely Brian Shaw is very positive on Green, on Kuminga… on all his players. And I don’t like Kuminga as a prospect that much. Whereas Shaw comps him to Jaylen Green. Or Penny last year who thought Wiseman wound be amazing on the Warriors.

    they’re just interviews after all… we all know this.

    but it absolutely shouldnt mean “oh ****, the hype train is out of control so this can’t be good!!”

    whose claiming they do know?

    Also realize the quote you’re responding to was based on your question about getting paid and playing against better talent, which has nothing to do with articles and workout videos…

    Maybe you now also think the FACT that Jalen as already gotten paid and worked out against better talent should be evidence that he can’t do it lol.
     
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    None of this addresses anything I said.

    I am not saying ignore anything, I just wonder why you believe all of these articles and puff pieces mean anything about the player he will become.

    You are the guy using these things as proof of something.

    He has gotten none of the kind of money he will be getting guaranteed and the adulation that being a NBA player gets.
     
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    Like I said, Green plays like Kobe until it is proven otherwise.
     
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    This.

    Thanks for illustrating what I was trying to say.
     
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    You are claiming they are part of reason he should be the pick?

    So yeah you seem to be claiming you know.
     
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    Actually with the star potential that KPJ has you would want to have as many positive influences around him as you can. Green sounds like a positive, hard working person.
     
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    You’re reading comprehension is atrocious.

    why do you keep saying I’m reading things as proof of xyz when I’ve literally said in multiple posts that just because these things are out there doesn’t mean xyz, but instead are things to take into consideration?

    regarding the money and adulation… so what? Like what was the point of bringing it up in the first place? Why do you keep bringing up random comments about one player and not the other?

    hey guess what? Neither Green nor Mobley have ever played professional basketball in the city of Houston, let’s wait and see how they react to that! Neither Mobley or Green have ever drank alcohol legally. Maybe they’ll turn 21 and BOH become alcoholics!!

    there’s two players were comparing here. Of the two, Green has received far more positive articles with both first hand knowledge of his mental approach and scouting knowledge (see Dunked on Podcast today where they literally are asking if Mobley ever runs hard down the court), Green has received more money, and Green has received more adulation, and responded to all of that very well…

    yet you consistently respond with “that doesn’t mean anything” and “let’s see how he responds to that”

    its like taking a 4th grader and a 5th grader advancing both to 6th grade math and being like “yeah, but we don’t really know how the 5th grader will handle 6th grade math do we?!?!?”


    again… atrocious reading comprehension. Who said Jalen a green was the humble guy? We’ve (those of us on this side) have all literally said the opposite. That he strongly desires to “be like Mike”.

    we’re good with that lol

    Its dumb. I’m done with this argument.

    what is crystal clear is you gravitate towards humble, introverted quiet leadership personalities, and as a result make some incredibly confusing conclusions.
     
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    Mr. Green is going to have to get drafted by another team if he wants to take care of his family in the future because it’s not gonna be the Rockets
     
  18. JayZ750

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    Yes, that’s exactly what I’m claiming.

    they ARE part of the analysis.

    so again, quote me where I say because these things happened they must be 1,000% true and “I know”
     
  19. Rudyc281

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    Oh no there’s tons of articles so far with green hyping his self up he and his agent have been the most hardworking out of the draft prospects at least when it comes to hit pieces to boost his value.

    While Mobley has been super quiet and just been putting in work all work no play all business all the time at least that’s how I view him.

    But it seems like every other day green is just seeking attention and going above and beyond to have all eyes on him.
     
  20. jiggyfly

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    I'm not mad at him and his rep I just laugh at everybody who was telling us how humble he was.
     
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