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Worse PGs that Steve Francis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, May 13, 2004.

  1. SmeggySmeg

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    1. Kidd
    2. Bibby
    3. Baron Davis
    4. Nash
    5. Marbury
    6. Francis
    7. Parker
    8. Dwayne Wade
    9. Hinrich

    however the last 3 are improving, and they in time will likely pass Steve, which is my biggest criticism of Steve what improvments has made to his game that have helped the rockets win more games
     
  2. fasthand2000

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    Boy, you really do your homework. :D
     
  3. JLOBABYDADDY

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    You all say SF cant run the break, but hell even "I" would look good running the break with KMart and Jefferson or Duncan and Ginobili trailing me. He doesnt look good running the break because Cat is the only one running with him................ If Yao and Cato ran the court like that we wouldnt be discussing this post. By the way I think every PG in the league is worse than SF except Kidd, Cassell, Parker, and Marbury. Oh and Steve Nash
     
  4. wireonfire

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    No, I think Francis's problem on FB is that he has a scorer mentality. He is a PG, he should try to set up his teammate, but he always tries to score himself on FB, so it is very predicatable and very easy to defend.
     
  5. tycoonchip

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    I think Francis actually admitted about having problems starting up the break. I believe that's why he really wanted to get Odom in town that year. He was thinking Odom could do alot of the ball handling and distributing as a point small forward. I think Steve wants to play a point guard that scores at will like a two guard but doesn't want to "officially" slip to the two so that he doesn't have to play against the taller 2 guards.
     
  6. acizlan

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    sorry, i dont agree steve is under B davis.

    B davis always has a FG% lower than 40%(and dats in east)
    I also dont believe Dwayne Wade or Hinrich will ever play in steve's level

    and yeah , Kidd and Nash are gettin older, and in time steve will likely to pass them(Based on ur logic)
     
  7. Easy

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    That might be true. But Steve has shown that he's willing to involve his teammates.

    The basic problem with his FB ability is his decision making. More specifically, Francis cannot make quick decisions when he is dribbling in full speed. He has to either make up his mind first and dribble in full speed coast to coast, or he has to slow down and think what he should do. Most of the times he does the latter. Sometimes when opportunity comes, he'll go all the way. But he cannot change his mind midway through a fast dribbling upcourt.

    That's why his FB consists mostly of home run passes, or going all the way, even when one of his teammates is in better scoring position. Opposing defenders know this and they just wait for him under the basket. He then either commits a charge or does a difficult acrobatic layup.

    I used to think that Francis' problem was his unwillingness to trust his teammates. But after observing more and more, I have come to realize that he is not unwilling, but unable. He simple cannot make decision on the fly. He must make up his mind or slow down to think. Either way, it's a FB killer. His half court game has the same problem, just not as acute because the speed is slower. You wonder why he dribbles so much. It is because once he goes into fast dribbling motion, he cannot think.

    Have you seen him force some bad alleyoop to Cato or Cat? Sometimes the oop is perfectly delivered. Sometimes you scratch you head wondering why in the world does he do an oop in that situation. The truth is, he has made up his mind to make the pass. Many times, it's good. But sometimes when the defense reads what he's trying to do and adjusts, he still does it, despite the fact that the situation has changed. This is especially true when he's dribbling fast.

    Francis is not a selfish player. He just doesn't have the ability to be a good PG, which requires making good decisions on the fly.
     
  8. wireonfire

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    Well said, easy. Yeah, the biggest problem w/ Francis is his low bball iq--sth can't be improved much on.
     
  9. JLOBABYDADDY

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    The reason Steve tries to score is because a lot of times hes in the front court alone. If he waits for his teammates to come down the court, by definition, this is no longer a fast break. Steve cant get Yao involved if hes still on the other side of the half court line.
     
  10. sourav004

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    I dont know why people blame steve for everything going wrong with the rockets. Yao should share some blame also.
    I like Yao but his playoff game was horrible: 15 points, 7.4 rebounds, and 1.8 assists while letting shaq have a field day with him. Steves stats are much better in the playoffs: 19.2 points, 8.4 rebounds, and 7.6 assists. Our point guard had more rebounds then our all star center. There is something wrong with that. Steve did a great job and yao had a bad game with the lakers. Steve was close to a triple double in most of the games and reached a triple double in one. While yao got bearly a double double. I know he is young and inexperienced but that shouldnt be a why he should share responsiblity for the loses. The bottom line is steve played great in the playoffs, and yao didnt. He should be blamed for our quick exit. Steve is the leader of our team , at least for now. Trading steve is a horrible idea and trading yao is also a horrible idea. Steve, Yao, Mobley, Boki, and JJ should all stay but the rest are expendable, especially Taylor who has been a big disappointment.
     
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    I didnt think fans considered S.F. as a serious Point Guard, afterall he isnt known as a playmaker or making his team mates better and isnt that what a Point Guard does?
     
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