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Most Sure Fire Prospect NOT Cade, Mobley, Green or Suggs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Aruba77, Jun 30, 2021.

  1. Corrosion

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    My board is closer to yours than his .... with the exception of moving Mobley down a few spots & adding Alperen Sengun & JT Thor in the mix somewhere 7-10.
     
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    I like Barnes almost as high as 3rd, above Mobley.

    Cause Barnes is also a "unicorn" defensively... doesn't have Mobley's strength, but has better bulk (20 lbs bigger on a smaller frame), and as someone noted he's Ben Simmons with a killer mentality. The shooting is an issue, but then he was only slightly worse from 3 than Mobley (27.5% vs 30%) and same with FTs and everyone says Mobley will develop that shot...??

    That said, I put a lot of emphasis on actual skill-set, especially shooting, so its concerning. Same reason I'm not enamored with Kuminga, who can't shoot.
     
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    Mins, due to being slightly raw (more than Evan).

    But I'm picking that unicorn in the 20's where most big men are
    going nowadays. Not the other unicorn (Evan) at #2 or #3 because
    I don't believe some of those skills that he shows in highschool and
    college will translate as well to the NBA.

    I don't see Embiid/Jokic/Capela/Ayton in the PAC 12 where he played most games.
    nor did I see Curry, Morant, Westbrook, CP3, Trea Young in the PAC 12 either.
    I'm seeing Branden Carlson and Alfonso Plummer types.

    Often Evan Mobley is going to say, "I never saw that speed, strength, I.Q. in
    highschool and college......duh, yeah that's why they are inferior to the NBA.
    For a reason.
     
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    I agree with you, but he shot 29% from 3 in the season. I'm not going
    to hold that against him because Kuminga was 42 makes from 3 in that
    AAU team that we worked it out to about 33% from 3.

    Then what, about 24% from 3 with Ignite team of G-league in 13 games.

    Then Kuminga shot about 67% from 3 in his workout at Pro workout.

    Boutknight will need to hit the Above the Break 3 more than the corner 3 as
    he will be more of a facilitator much like Jamal Murray, attacking from above
    the break most often. Boutknight will need a high USG% or be inconsistent imo.

    I'm not sure about his defense, at 190 and 6'5".....he is not as fast, quick and
    possess the leaping ability of 180 and 6'5" Jalen Green. Anything is possible
    though with both. Richard Hamilton was thin and had a decent career.

    Boutknight is probably anywhere from pick #7 thru #12
     
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    Moses Moody if we're going "least likely to bust". Him and Franz Wagner look like plug and play 3-D guys with some potential. Moses is the better shooter, so I'm going with him, but Franz is more versatile on defense.

    Kuminga or Barnes would be #5 on my big board though. The tools and potential with those guys is worth the risk imo.
     
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    It's so much less stressful when you have the 14th pick....
     
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    But see.....this is a good stress. I like that we can debate over which player can help turn this franchise around - either by next season or the season after.

    Having the 14th pick is like Houston Sports tradition - aiming for the last seed in the playoffs, not getting it, and your consolation is to have the last lottery pick in the draft.

    Glad we don't have to feel that way this time..... :)
     
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  10. Kevooooo

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    Yes, but the disappointment of drafting a bust at 2 is always there -- and statistically, you're more likely to draft a bust than a star (I actually don't know if that is statistically true, but I bet it is). Of course I'm happy and excited we get a better chance at finding a star, but it's still nerve wrecking to have to ponder the decision for an entire month. I wish the draft was a week after the lottery!

    Was it the draft always a month after lottery? Always felt closer, but then again we haven't been in the lottery for many years.

    Point is, at least with the 14th if you f up, it's whatever. If you f up with 2 pick people will b**** for yearrrrrrs
     
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    Sengun was in my top 10 earlier because he has the most advanced scoring skills of ANY big in this draft with underrated defense, and still only 18.

    But he is strictly a traditional 5 and NBA is devaluing those type of players now, hence his fall in draft.

    And Thor is rising for sure based on potential but should still not be a lottery pick based on college production IMO.

    Or maybe I'm being hopeful because I want Thor at 23 - LOL
     
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    His brother Isaiah was the center in USC.

    This is also reason why Kai Jones, Greg Brown, Jericho Sims did not have better numbers - they were cannibalizing each other.
     
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    Surefire? Like maybe not that much upside but almost certainly no downside, a guaranteed NBA contributor, absolutely worth his draft position

    Quentin Grimes
     
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    I wouldn't even care what they did at 2 if they got Murphy & Thor at 23 & 24.
     
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    I agree.

    Both players are great complementary players and should fit seamlessly in Rockets system.

    Wisekamp fits same role as well.
     
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    Weiskamp is a hell of a shooter too .... but he and Murphy are kinda redundant & Murphy probably has a little better defensive upside.

    I wouldn't complain about either of them ....
     
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    THe Rockets need:- HEIGHT, GOOD MINDS, and TALLENT
    My Picks are :-
    #2 MOBLEY, #23 MANN, #24 MAKER.
     
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    signs point to "yes"
     
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