I think there are way better players at 23 & 24 and the only reason Grimes’ name is being floated is because of homerism. We should go BPA with those picks and that won’t be Grimes.
not really. Grimes again was once a projected lottery pick. For those that actually have followed his story, which it's pretty clear you have not, know what's been going on. And there's definitely a case for him being the bpa in that area of the end of the 1st round
I think Grimes has been sold way too short by draftniks. Maybe it's homerism but I could see him sneaking into the first round. Good height and frame. Plus athlete. Plus rebounder for his position. Plus defender. 40% from 3 last year on 8.3 attempts. 79% from the line. Was one of the best performers in the combine games (though of course sure first rounders don't really play in that) and shot really well there. Handles and passing are nothing to write home about but they aren't terrible either. If his shooting last year wasn't a fluke it's a pretty reasonable expectation that he could last a while in the league as a somewhat switchable 3 and D wing and if that happens he'll end up as one of the 15-20 best players from this draft. You also have to like his mental makeup to bounce back from being an elite prospect, falling off that path, but then bouncing back and finding a role he could fill. Not that it has to be Grimes, but taking a high risk high reward flyer with one of the picks and picking someone like Grimes that has a lower ceiling but a much higher floor with the other wouldn't be a bad approach.
I like grimes as one of the choices (as I’ve said, bpa-2, high ceiling-23, high floor-24) but like others have said…there’s other high floor players I’d pick before him like tm3, butler, tre Mann…but if scouts feel he has the highest floor then I would be happy with that pick. We have lots of 2 guards, though—-/EDIT—another name I have watched some lately that I’m falling in love with since kispert is gone for sure-duarte what are his measurables (I’m at work) can he guard 3s?
That puts him with more reach than Mann, which is what I was looking for…I’d be very happy with grimes as a pick
We could do worse than Grimes there. Does a bit of everything well, with the shooting being his No. 1 skill. I've guessed he'd be a late first rounder all year, and after the combine I think he's made his case. Once you get toward the late first and into the second, I'd be happy to find a 6'5" guy who does it all rather than a 6'7" guy who's good at one thing.
6'4 w/o shoes with a 6'8 wingspan. He's got a really solid 210 pound frame and moves his feet well laterally. You probably aren't going to put him on Kawhi for 32 minutes but I think he can guard 3's to an extent. Those guys would be reasonable at that spot. I think Grimes should be considered to possibly be around that tier and right now really isn't on draft lists.
Lulz thinking you are getting a superstar at 23/24. Outside of Cunningham, who has plenty of detractors, there is no clear super star in this draft.
I'm just hoping for a bench guy. Grimes is not even that at this point. He has a lot of work to do to get into a rotation of any sort.
I think he will go in the first, but maybe not a value at 23/4. If he fell to the second, I would like to see a deal made for the pick. There were no players in the tournament that I enjoyed watching more than Dejon Jarreau. 100% effort all the time... Patrick Beverly level! He may not get drafted, but I would bet on him making the NBA in the coming years, maybe after playing overseas. I will always be rooting for him. Respect!
ESPN's mock today has Grimes going 28 to Philly. Nice to see draftniks kind of catching up on him now. For what it's worth at 23/24 they have us taking Tre Mann and Ziaire Williams.
He should ABSOLUTELY be considered at 24. HOW is he not getting more love than Tre Mann?? He may not be as good of a shooter as Mann right now, but look at Mann's release. He gets little lift. This works in college- doesnt translate in NBA. Grimes gets a lot more and the release may even be quicker from a set stance. On defense, I don't think this comparison is even close. Also, look at the first step. Grimes is way quicker than Mann. I understand how he does look slow at times. PEOPLE SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT BRANDON ROY. But he was also an excellent athlete and his first step mattered way more than some slow footspeed in a half court set. Look at his shiftiness and ability to change direction at that size. Also, he was a TOP recruit out of HS. Tried to go to NBA early and had a bad workout. So he went back to the gym and worked. The improvement over the next year couldn't be more obvious. He also specifically chose to go to UH because Sampson would let him go back to PG, which is where he would have an advantage in the NBA. These decisions show thoughtfulness, maturity, grit...things you want most in a kid. Especially at a pick in the 20s. Does he have a Steph curry handle? No. But no one does at pick 24 except maybe Sharife Cooper who is clearly Ish Smith 2.0. This guy has crazy upside, and perhaps playing in his hometown of Houston brings out the best. Why have a Green + KPJ 2 headed monster when you could have a Green + KPJ + Grimes 3 headed monster. The playmaking and switchability of that group would be unbelievable.
